[8:55
AM] Mr. McGreen:
I
have a friend that was very close to joining the Masons until he
started getting requests from them for dick picks and insinuating
they do gay stuff
[8:55
AM] Mr. Blue:
lol
[8:55
AM] Mr. McGreen:
multiple
members
[8:56
AM] Mr. Blue:
"It's
actually a very old rule... centuries old... You have to text us your
wiener. Read the bylaws."
"Please
do not bring this up with anyone else... That's also against the
rules."
[8:56
AM] Mr. McGreen:
lol
Back
in the day you commissioned a painting of your wiener
[8:57
AM] Mr. Brown:
Probably
a bad lodge
lol
[8:57
AM]
Sounds
like these Mason are lookin' to put their “members” in the “bad
lodge”
[8:59
AM] Mr. McGreen:
"We have secret
ritual sleepovers. But
we demonize real gays."
[9:01
AM] Mr. Blue:
It's
always the Republicans that get caught with a page boy or a male
prostitute
Dems
have their share of scandals... they are usually hetero though
[9:01
AM]
Heh
Usually
right after a vitriolic public outcry against gays
[9:02
AM] Mr. Blue:
Or
like a 20 year career voting against gay rights
[9:04
AM]
One
of the late night comic news shows (Colbert?) featured a sheriff
doing that – they played one of the guy's rants.
Cut
back to studio - "So he's going to be caught in a truckstop
bathroom stall in...(looks at watch) 3...2..."
[9:04
AM] Mr. Blue:
Heheh
[9:04
AM] Mr. Brown:
Well
its hard to hide their secret when they try to make it hard to be gay
[9:05
AM] Mr. Blue:
Roy
Cohn made a career out of accusing people of homosexual activity...
died of AIDS
[9:06
AM] Mr. Brown:
AIDS
is not specific to gay people though
[9:06
AM] Mr. Blue:
But
that's how he got it
[9:06
AM] Mr. McGreen:
I
think labels don't help either though. You have one experience
with a friend at summer camp and according to America you're gay
[9:06
AM] Mr. Brown:
Yeah
lol
“This
one time... at band camp...”
Well
if you look at the Romans it was normal
[9:08
AM] Mr. McGreen:
Yeah
societies can't really just decide which human behaviors are normal
or not
[9:08
AM]
Actually,
that's exactly who decides. In spite of biology/psychology.
[9:08
AM] Mr. Brown:
It's
always a culture thing and that changes
[9:11
AM]
Dave
Allen bit...attempted reconstruction...
Greek
and a Italian arguing over the accomplishments of their ancient
civilizations and which was better and more innovative. Arts,
architecture, literature, science, politics, military. It was
running even and Greece was scoring points on Rome having to steal so
much.
Greek
offers: "Ah, but in all this, perhaps our greatest
accomplishment is the introduction and glorification of Romantic
Love."
The
Italian responds: "Yes. That's true. However the
Romans improved on it by engaging in Romantic Love with women."
[9:16
AM] Mr. Blue:
At
different stages of Greece/Rome it was normal or not normal
[9:20
AM]
Different
stages of history in everywhere, really
Sexual
mores depends a lot on the culture you're living in too
If
you read way too much ancient stuff... like some of us...
At
least 1/4 of us in this conversation stopped being alarmed and
confused by how much direct, generational, and tangental incest was
going on.
Naturally,
these isolated cases were always loudly protested by the other
gods/family members/public...
Oops...typo...
Naturally,
these COMMON cases were NEVER EVER even QUIETLY disapproved of by the
other gods/family members/public...
Arabian
Nights was full of "And so she married her uncle, and..."
[9:29
AM] Mr. McGreen:
The
uncle that hugged too much at reunions
[9:29
AM]
Read
any ancient dynasty crisis or analyze mummy genetics and they were
always married to their sister or own kid or 1st cousin or whatever.
[9:30
AM] Mr. Blue:
Which
is why it's weird that people are so interested in (falsely) claiming
royal blood
"Oh
so you're inbred? Congrats"
[9:30
AM]
(Jeff
Foxworthy) "If your family tree does not fork...you might be a
New Kingdom Pharaoh!"
"If
your aunt is your sister on your father's side...you might be a New
Kingdom Pharaoh!"
[11:53
AM] Mr. McGreen:
We
went Trick or Treating last year and a guy had a full Michael Myers
getup. They were handing out almost no candy. Kids wouldn't go
near him
When
i was younger but had stopped Trick or Treating, I would put on a
scary clown mask and hide in my grandma's bushes
Jump
out scare anybody coming to get the candy
My
dad one year dressed as a scarecrow
He
sat in a chair all slumped with a bowl of candy that had a note
saying “take one”
It
was really funny when he would move suddenly
Now
parents get all pissed off when you scare their kids
[11:55
AM] Mr. Brown:
Yep
Used
to have to work for your candy - now you just walk up and get it
lol
[11:57
AM]
(Old
Man Brown and Old Man McGreen, sitting on porch in late October)
“Why back
in MY day, the grownups actually tried to kill us when we
wanted candy.”
“Kids today are soft!”
I
have a dandy scare-free gag I'm plotting for Halloween
Rig
up a passageway...20' maybe... dark walls. Light shining on the
bowl of full-sized goodies at the end.
"You
can have one of this, or one of The Good Stuff. Its right in there.
Go get some."
It
wouldn't even need a jump scare.
Just
watch them imagining what horror awaits down there and deciding.
[11:58
AM] Mr. Brown:
Could
do a projection
Get
to it and its just an image
[11:59
AM]
Or
darker with a mirror?
Walk
down...you see something walking towards you in the dark.
[11:59
AM] Mr. McGreen:
That's
pretty good, Mr. Silver. They'd just be so afraid of something
happening
[11:59
AM]
Yup
I
like both variants
World's
shortest haunted house
Bring
in whatever monsters are in your head.
[12:00
PM] Mr. Blue:
Maybe
have something to jump out after they leave - run a long con on the
brave ones
Or
maybe the "scare" is that it's just apples or oranges
[12:01
PM]
“Wait...This
isn't candy! Augh! Fresh fruit?!” (holds chest, panting)
[12:01
PM] Mr. McGreen:
lol
"Pencils
and toothbrushes!?!"
[12:01
PM] Mr. McGreen:
Jason
vs Freddy was going to originally end with a Pinhead cameo
[12:03
PM]
"I've
been looking for you two... No more games."
[12:03
PM] Mr. McGreen:
They
didnt pursue it because the director decided Pinhead was too B-list
[12:03
PM] Mr. Brown:
You
would think Pinhead and Freddy would know each other
[12:04
PM] Mr. McGreen:
They
were both going to appear in Hell. Then when they run toward each
other chains grab them and hold them still. Pinhead stands in the
shadows and says "Gentlemen, is there a problem?"
[12:05
PM] Mr. Brown:
Question
is who has more power? Freddy or Pinhead
[12:06
PM] Mr. Blue:
Pinhead
Doesn't
seem like you really "defeat" him... he just kinda goes
away.
[12:07
PM] Mr. Brown:
Close
the way in
Kinda
same with Freddy - he is not really gone
Although
his power does come from fear and belief, and Pinhead doesn't. So
yeah, Pinhead.
[12:07
PM]
Right.
Pinhead physically manifests in the real world and doesn't have to
use his victim's imagination to do anything.
[12:07
PM] Mr. Blue:
He
probably wouldn't approve of Jason and Freddy's methods of choosing
victims
[12:08
PM]
Heh
"Why are you idiots killing them? They depart and neither
you nor they get to continue to play. And they call ME Pinhead."
[12:08
PM] Mr. McGreen:
Yeah.
Hellraiser 2, they spared a little girl who opened the puzzle because
she was a pawn it wasn't her intention
[12:09
PM] Mr. Blue:
"It's
not hands that call us (open the box), it's desire"
[12:09
PM] Mr. McGreen:
There
you go
[12:10
PM] Mr. Brown:
The
Hellraiser rules get bastardized as it goes on
[12:10
PM] Mr. Blue:
They
all do.
Really
you should only stick with the first couple of a franchise if you
wanna keep some consistency.
[12:10
PM]
Basically
you should be able to play with the Lament Configuration like a
Rubik's Cube all day long if you don't know what it is.
Turned
into the Ding-Dong Ditch of dimensional Hell portals
[12:11
PM] Mr. Blue:
Of
course in the first Hellraiser the girl didn't mean to open it (or
didn't open it at all?) but they thought she did.
But
she turned out to be kinda demented in sequels... So maybe she *did*
desire it, just a little
[12:11
PM]
(Pinhead
leans out of Hell gate) "You desire anything? No?
K..."
[12:11
PM] Mr. Blue:
"What's
your pleasure, child?"
[4
year old messing with The Box] "Fire trucks!"
"Ehhhhhhh...
Okay..."
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