Saturday, March 14, 2020

591 - A Drop In(to) The Ocean, The Science Of Plink, and American Ethnicity

[2:55 PM] 
"Carnival staff searched the ship, but it wasn’t until 5pm on Friday, May 13—a full 15 hours after her fall—Broberg’s husband alleges, that Carnival summoned the US Coast Guard (USCG), which launched a search and rescue mission. "
People really need to sign a realism waiver when they come on. 
[2:58 PM]  Mr. Blue: 
cruises seem weird to me
it's like the McDonald's of vacations
[2:58 PM]  Mr. Brown: 
uh 20 ft railings
un-climbable
[2:58 PM] 
"I, as a passenger, acknowledge that if I fall off this ship while it is at cruising speed in even perfect conditions, I will almost certainly never be seen again by the time anything can be done. (see: Nautical Miracles)"
The crew knew she was gone before they even picked up the phone to call the deck officer.  It's not like falling off a yacht
[2:59 PM]  Mr. Brown: 
Most falls are accidents from people being stupid
unless its murder, which sometimes happens
[2:59 PM]  Mr. Blue: 
I assume a lot of those are newly married couples realizing they made a huge mistake and seizing an opportunity to correct that mistake
[3:00 PM]  Mr. Brown: 
And drunks
If you're drunk move around the ship towards the inside
[3:00 PM]  Mr. Blue: 
Always remind your loved one that you could've killed them many times and gotten away with it
[3:04 PM]  Mr. Brown: 
they should make bigger walls on the ships
or make people catchers on the sides
Your family member is missing? Lets check the people catchers.
Is this yours?
lol
[3:37 PM] 
[Lost at Sea and Found Dept.]
"Ensign, could you check in the box for a 40 year old balding male in a loud shirt and Gilligan hat?"
"Uhhhh...heart sunglasses or Venetian blind sunglasses, sir?"
"Blinds."
"Red or green?"
"Green."
"YUP!"
Most wouldn't survive the basic fall.  At the heights of these cruise ships, if you aren't a trained diver it might as well be a drop to concrete at the bottom of a tall building.
Oh, my early attitude of "forget it" came from a write-up on topic from way way back in a short lived travel magazine I got.  It went into all the logistics of how long it would take trying to stop the ship, let alone turn around in a 5 mile diameter loop, sending out launches to search because they might not get back either if the ship kept going, etc.
[3:48 PM]  Mr. Blue: 
Probably get sucked into the rear rotor too
[3:50 PM] 
Yes, that too... If you somehow didn't expire on impact... And stayed conscious... And didn't breathe in water and drown... And if the ship didn't pull you under in passing... And you didn't get chopped up passing the screws... It's probably because you fell off the stern and will be 12 miles away before they can start looking even if people were trying to mark your position in the wake.
[3:52 PM]  Mr. Brown: 
crab fishermen have better luck
[3:52 PM] 
They waited 15 hours!”
"Yes, sir.  Longer than she could tread water or remain uneaten if she survived.  15 hours so we CAN'T find anything.  It's better that way."
[3:52 PM]  Mr. Brown: 
You should hope they die when they hit
Being stuck out there treading for awhile then dying would suck a lot
[3:53 PM] 
Yes



[2:55 PM]  Mr. Blue: 
One of the windows in the atrium, near where that one window is still shattered, has a weird circular spiderweb crack in it
like a meteor hit it
[2:56 PM]  Mr. Brown: 
oh yeah
plink
[2:58 PM] 
What colour was the crack pattern?
Silly me
(facepalm)
Mr. Brown already answered
"Plink"
(“The Colour Out of Space” if it took place now)
"That color on that fragment you brought in! That's...WOW... Does it photograph?  AWESOME!”
Get me a patent application from my top left desk drawer and we need to get this thing to pigment chemistry like NOW!"
Everyone dies on farm...dam built... DuPont makes $30 Billion in 2019 marketing "Plink"
DuPont sues county for copyright infringement as mystery illness/colour spreads.
[3:38 PM]  Mr. Brown: 
We only made it out of radium rich cement with trace amounts of lead...come on
[3:39 PM] 
In the story they couldn't make any sense of it at all. 
I read about that as a sci-fi trope that long outlived validity
(scientist interviewed) "There aren't any materials of unknown composition any more.  Haven't been for a long time.  Seriously, it doesn't matter what alien planet with what weird technology they have, we've been able to break down any sample of anything for decades." 
[3:41 PM]  Mr. Blue: 
What, mystery materials?
[3:41 PM] 
Conclusion: "Stop writing about mystery materials sci-fi folks"
I don't really agree with that section of the article, but it would have to be...like...extra dimensional, magic, or solid energy or something.
[3:43 PM]  Mr. Blue: 
I'm dumb with chemistry but i feel like a super advanced civilization could make a material that we just can't figure out its basic elements
[3:44 PM] 
2018, the "colour" meteor would have an elemental composition breakdown in a couple hours.
Probably have to argue longer about molecular structure a good bit longer.
[3:44 PM]  Mr. Brown: 
But we could identify its properties
[3:45 PM]  Mr. Blue: 
Do you think we've discovered all the elements there are in the universe?
[3:45 PM]  Mr. Brown: 
In the vast universe there could be a element that we have not come across yet
[3:45 PM]  Mr. Blue: 
There could be processes that create others that just weren't present in our neck of the galaxy
[3:46 PM] 
The ones at the very end of the chart that have been made tend to require high energy physics to make and have half-life's of milliseconds
Now if you could make a stable isotope...
I think that was the 113 argument...
(sec)
Element 115
[3:47 PM]  Mr. Blue: 
Would it be possible to *invent* elements?
[3:48 PM] 
The guy that claimed to work as a reverse engineer at Area 51 said it was used to power the ships



[12:51 PM] 
Now this...I've wondered this...
Do people of American descent have "Ethnic Festivals" in other countries?
USA crafts, music, dance, food, sports? 
"Come Out To The New Country!"
Are there “Little Americas”?
[12:56 PM]  Mr. Blue: 
i don't think we have a culture to export
[12:58 PM] 
Well...I mean we DO...
[12:58 PM]  Mr. Blue: 
That hasn't already been exported like Starbucks and McDonald's and our pop music
[12:58 PM] 
I've seen shorts of ex-pats getting together and such
Just never a festival
I guess we never leave in large enough numbers...hehe
"Italian Festivals" et al in the US are interesting to me from an anthropology POV
They're kind of like the SCA
The SCA is the modern world's attempt to imitate the food, clothing, mannerisms, speech and all sorts of other cultural elements of "The Middle Ages"
A Euro-asian period covering vast areas and huge amounts of time.
Meanwhile, you have an actual Italian look at American "Italian" and they don't know a lot of it's supposed to be Italian
"Nobody eats this stuff in Italy... maybe in (distant Cleveland vs Pittsburgh town)."
Tales of travelers unable to find good pizza when they went "home" to visit relatives
[1:09 PM]  Mr. Blue: 
Like lederhosen
They're not “German”. They are Bavarian.  Wear it in Stuttgart and you'll look like a tourist
[1:12 PM] 
Dirndls and Landhausmode were abandoned for a while after World War II. While the wearing of the corresponding garments was scarcely popular in the 1970s, it has grown strongly since the 1990s
It's a costume.  Heh
Pinning down American Culture would be pretty hard.
Too big and too "the present", I guess.
Just like these clothing references, you have to drop down to regional levels to get anything
Otherwise...broad stereotypes
Nothing to make a cultural festival out of
Maybe in a few hundred years
[1:19 PM]  Mr. Blue: 
Yes
We're not ethnically homogeneous
Probably by then at least regional things will be nailed down
[1:19 PM] 
Cowboy hats and ball caps mixed in with confederate caps and tricorns
[1:20 PM]  Mr. Blue: 
pizza & burgers
Lots of guns
[1:20 PM] 
(At a USA Historical Recreationist Society, 2518)
"What period is your persona?"
(Bad accent) "20th century BASS-ton"
"Wrong shoes"
"I know, but the buckles look good...red socks though."
"That's a myth"
[1:30 PM]  Mr. Brown: 
hahaha
That IS ingrained in all our heads