Saturday, July 20, 2019

549 - Icarus And The Rainbow, (sings) "Maybe Someone Named Joshua Fought A Battle Of Jericho At One Of The Times The Walls Came Tumbling Down", Paul Is The Apostle The Gentiles Deserve But Not The One They Need

[1:25 PM]  Mr. Brown.: 
Fake or something got zapped hard
[1:34 PM] 
That's closer than it looks in stills
It's falling too fast for very far away
[1:46 PM]  Mr. Brown.: 
It's a scene from Con Air when he throws the dead guy out the plane with a note
[1:49 PM] 
haven't see it but know about it.
[1:50 PM]  Mr. Brown.: 
Falling out of the sky 
RRRRRRRRIIIIIIIIIICCCCCCKKKKK JAAAAAAAMMMMMMEESSSSSS BITCH
[2:00 PM] 
heh
The Rocketeer after his 15 second fuel burn
Maybe not...he would be smoking more
[2:01 PM]  Mr. Brown.: 
Maybe falling then igniting again made him go down faster
[2:01 PM] 
Wouldn't it be sad if it had been a history changing personal flight experiment and the fellow got struck by lightning
"I've done it!  I've conquered anti-gravity levitation and it runs on a triple-A battery!  This will change-” ka-RACK!!!!
[2:05 PM]  Mr. Brown.: 
In front of a rainbow no less
hehe
"I'm up here, flying finally! Look at this beautiful rainbow to make it even better!” ZAP



[1:54 PM] 
Skeptical Meter at 9.8
[1:54 PM]  Mr. Brown.: 
um it's in a history book
hehe
[1:55 PM] 
Even their pic labelled "Lost City" is basically a fair sized building
[1:56 PM]  Mr. Brown.: 
Why would anybody think King David did not exist?
He was for sure a king
Might not have been called David
[1:57 PM] 
(keeps reading) 9.9...
[1:58 PM]  Mr. Brown.: 
Hmm if there was a House of David
Wonder if they all went by the last name David
[2:10 PM] 
There are problems with Biblical history.  Not least the disparity of written word vs archaeological evidence, and that's before considering that a lot of stuff was written a long time after it was supposed to have happened.
There is almost nothing interpretable...and nothing verifiable...as evidence of King David.
I mean...Europe was literate and kept good records in a solid dating system when Robin Hood was supposedly around and no one can decide if he was one guy...three...many...never existed...was never called that, and what century he was.
Was there a King David?  Maybe
Yet even in this article they contradict themselves. 
They blanket it in a 250 years span
10th to mid 8th century?
"It's from the right period"
What...the "old" period?
10th to 8th BC
How many Davids were there?
Where did Solomon fit in?
This stuff is hard
hehe
[2:18 PM]  Mr. Brown.: 
The Bible. The book of deeds
and lessons
semi history
[2:22 PM] 
Which brings the subject up against the people who want it to be literal history
When it's clearly not exact or even correct when checked.
[2:22 PM]  Mr. Brown.: 
It is a lesson book
[2:23 PM] 
Like the Battle of Jericho
Biblical scholars know who was there and what forces were fighting and how it played out...
And so archaeologists went to look
And the walls had fallen at Jericho something like 3x in history but never when the people in the story were there
What do you DO with that?
Well...it's a great story so put it in.
"Put in the wall thing"
"But it didn't happen." 
"But it was cool."
"That was (some forgotten general's) thing." 
"Eh...illiterates.  No one remembers that.  Put it in."
[2:28 PM]  Mr. Brown.:
And God said “write about the battle of Jericho, son”
But i wasn't there”
You heard about it, right? I want to get the point across. Screw history.”
lol
[2:31 PM] 
Yes
"You're never to have a temple...so build one"
"You're never to have a king...but pick a bunch."
Lot of workings of Humans in the Bible
Think i blogged it Saturday about the whole Canaanite “genocide”.
And the study that showed that not only weren't they wiped out, they never left and are still there.
[2:36 PM]  Mr. Brown.: 
God tells the writer “here is the point i want to get across, make it happen”
Then through the years people just keep copying it down
[2:39 PM] 
Still happens.
[2:40 PM]  Mr. Brown.: 
The whole point - and it even says it - is to keep the lessons going
I'm not good at reciting where though
lol
[2:42 PM] 
Take The Lord's Prayer... Does your church end with the 'thine is the power and' etc?"
I keep ending up in groups standing there waiting for people to finish up a sentiment some monk scribbled in the margins of a Bible or prayer book once centuries ago.
It's obviously not part of The Lord's Prayer
Just started showing up in copies and recopies after a certain point.
[2:47 PM]  Mr. Brown.: 
Thine is the power and the glory for ever and ever amen
I remember saying that before
can't remember if we do it at my current church
So second nature I just recite it
lol
[2:48 PM] 
Mr. Comatose-Rote Brown...church goer
"Honestly I don't even wake up til after they do reading #3."
[2:50 PM]  Mr. Brown.: 
I think i subconsciously recite it when it is started.
So yeah awake yet not awake
hehe
I listen to the sermons



[3:18 PM] 
Lot of "Christianity" seems to be "Paulianity"
Can you imagine? 
Guy walking in to an apostle-team meeting and saying "Hi, I was Saul your oppressor but a light and voice said I'm an apostle now so I'm Paul."
I mean...what would YOU think?
[3:27 PM]  Mr. Brown.: 
haha
[3:28 PM] 
(Peter) "Uh...hi...Paul?  I don't remember you at any of the...um...events or anything.  Were you standing in the background...or...? Anyone remember Paul?"
"Nope. I witnessed nothing and never met your Jesus guy. Sorry about all that 'trying to stamp you out stuff'.  Anyway, I'm really into this idea I have for a letter-writing campaign."
[9:31 AM]  Mr. Brown.: 
"Hi, I’m Paul. I’m in the witness protection program, they gave me the job of an apostle."
[9:47 AM] 
Did some digging on good ol' Paul. 
Dude wrote or is in like a third of the New Testament on the basis of "Hi guys, I'm an apostle."
And they didn't all think much of him
And if you scrutinize some of the crap he supposedly says, he admits he's pretty much a liar and corrupt in an unspecified way.
Granted, a bunch of his letters are considered forgeries.
(sigh)
How does this stuff happen...
"You (Paul) can be the apostle to the Gentiles (because they don't matter anyway)"
Among other things.
[10:01 AM]  Mr. Blue: 
If you thought men were fallible today, just think how fallible they were 700, or even 1,900 years ago
In terms of them trying to decipher what's real and what isn't, what to leave in and what to leave out, and how to translate what is selected
Anytime you translate something from one language, to another, and then another, it's going to be F'd up
The gist might still be there but important details will be lost
Even if you keep the work in the same language, over 2000 years that language will change, and the meaning of words will change
[10:19 AM]  Mr. Brown.: 
This dude called Joshua that later i will call Jesus did some cool stuff
[10:19 AM]  Mr. Blue: 
or Yeshua
couldn't even get his name right
[10:20 AM] 
Paul... Saul...
It wasn't even "Paul"
Paul is the Roman version of Saul...because Romans are idiots
[10:20 AM]  Mr. Blue: 
heh
The Romans probably called him Iesus right?
[10:22 AM]  Mr. Brown.: 
Witness protection program
[10:22 AM] 
(Roman Ellis Island) "Ehhhhh....I don't like how it sounds...  Welcome to Judea...“Paul”.  (stamps form) Take this to window 5."
Matthew, Mark, Luke, John, Tyrone, Bubba, and Jude 'Stinky' ben Levi

Wednesday, July 17, 2019

548 - "Oh Give Me A Home Where The Sasquaches Roam", "4 O'Clock", Stone Them From Orbit -- It's The Only Way To Be Sure

[1:07 PM] 
[1:32 PM]  Mr. Blue: 
just started
[1:59 PM]  Mr. Brown.: 
not a bad point on not finding bear bones
they have been found
but specifically odds of him finding them
still lends to Bigfoot being bears though also
black finger nails
black eyes
sounds like a bear
[2:12 PM] 
"Tales of British Colombia's secretive Forest Goths."
"Black nails...black eyes...screeching roaring horrible music..."
"Bears smell, but these creatures..."
"Everyone has seen them and heard the roaring and screaming around here.  I've been a guide for years and you'd think they were killing each other, but I've never found the body of one.  Honestly by Monday morning I'm guessing they've left the woods, they're in regular clothes, and are at their jobs in town with huge hangovers."
[2:29 PM]  Mr. Blue: 
Its probably also not a coincidence that a place famed for Sasquatch sightings is also rife with bears
[2:29 PM] 
However it's also quite farfetched that a place where bears are a common encounter that generations of locals don't know what bears look like.
[2:32 PM]  Mr. Blue: 
That is true, but lighting can play tricks on you
Add in a bear with an injured paw walking around upright, or mangy, or just behaving oddly, and i think it could happen
[2:35 PM] 
It would be interesting if – after everything was sorted out and we got a body – that Sasquatch is ursine, not primate
Long thinnish ones that like to amble about on their hind legs.
We've already got spirit bears and they're rare.
[2:39 PM]  Mr. Blue: 
Those sound cool. I'd never heard of those before
What about Sasquatches just being actual humans
Due to some genetic thing, some branch kept having hairy kids... like the kind you see in freakshows... and they kept dumping them in the woods
[2:40 PM] 
hehe
Well...there's that nagging issue that humans tend to get smaller and smaller in marginal environments
Sounds like there's plenty to eat, but you wouldn't get giants out of them
[2:42 PM]  Mr. Blue: 
It is an island
[3:13 PM]  Mr. Brown.: 
Hairy Orphan Island
Maybe there is a demon bear
lol
even rarer
[3:16 PM] 
"A bear so evil it looks like a person"
"The North American 'Null' bear.  So much darker than a black bear."
No wonder no one can take a decent picture of them.
[3:21 PM]  Mr. Brown.: 
Yep
Nor find them when dead
You just walk right past them
Got black bones
heheh
[3:21 PM] 
"You see that dead animal?"
"It's just darkness."



[3:09 PM] 
Read this out of curiosity this afternoon - https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Four_O%27Clock
H. P. Lovecraft's wife of 2 years.
It really has only one specific problem.
Specifically "How is her character writing this?"
Granted it was 1922 and this style of spooky story got a bit more sophisticated, but her character is lying in a bed with all this stuff approaching, looming, and leaning in for her doom.
I can just see her with her diary and pen...an instant from annihilation...holding out her hand against the flaming demon of vengeance: "Just a moment...almost done.  '...4...o'...clock...period.  The End.  OK, kill me."



[12:22 PM] 
Watched the original "The In-Laws" Friday to try to calm down... long time fave, still funny.
[12:23 PM]  Mr. Brown.: 
Fiddler on the Roof
I turned it on to annoy Mrs Brown
lol
[12:23 PM] 
LOL
I almost recorded that and decided against
[12:27 PM]  Mr. Brown.: 
I kept turning on stuff like archery
golf
softball
equestrian
When she first told me what i was watching was stupid I put on Fiddler on the Roof
lol
[12:38 PM]  Mr. Blue: 
I get Les Miserables and Fiddler on the Roof confused
[12:41 PM]  Mr. Brown.: 
ahaha
French mixed up with Jewish
[12:41 PM]  Mr. Blue: 
ahh
[12:56 PM] 
One is French one is Russian...to start
More than 100 years apart
...yet France looks more advanced.  :D
[12:58 PM]  Mr. Blue: 
heh
[12:58 PM] 
Peasants vs City
One is a musical beloved of generations who know the music and stuff.
The other is by Andrew Lloyd Weber
(Ding!)
One is a tale of generations -- with society rapidly changing for good and bad and the turmoil and heartache that goes along with it.
...So is the other one.



[8:38 AM] 
So... "The Quatermass Xperiment".  I have to go back and watch the end properly.  I had just a touch too much vodka for the comfortable position I was laying in and saw about 5 of the last 20 minutes in parts. 
"Xperiment" was a change from "Experiment" to capitalize on the British ratings board giving it an X rating
Which on their chart meant "too disturbing for general audiences"
[8:41 AM]  Mr. Blue: 
I saw it was on tv again over the weekend, but it was under the title 5,000,000 miles to earth or something
[8:41 AM] 
I like the 5 Million Years to Earth one better
But this was interesting
[8:41 AM]  Mr. Blue: 
Oh yeah you mean the B&W one
I saw that was on too
[8:42 AM] 
I'd not seen it.
[8:42 AM]  Mr. Blue: 
me either
[8:43 AM] 
it was like Monster A Go-Go, except good
It suffered from the American production company wanting to catch the lightning that was Britain's pre-Doctor Who – Quatermass – but insisting on an American grouch being cast as the lead. 
Probably could have been a star better.
David Warner was in it.  So young I barely recognized him and it still took a while.
[8:47 AM]  Mr. Blue: 
Looks like it was a TV show too
[8:59 AM] 
Yup. 
So yeah...you know how the Brits will have strong characters conflict and you get that sorta tension between charisma and position and the hero sways the situation because he's just a bit more noble or something?
The American Quatermass is basically an arrogant a-hole instead.
"Excuse me...Fine.  I'll do what you say.  But why are you behaving like the stock 'by-the-book flawed military officer' character?  They're always wrong and get their comeuppance in the end, you know."
[9:12 AM]  Mr. Blue: 
heh
[9:12 AM]  Mr. Brown.: 
you have no honor
[9:13 AM]  Mr. Blue: 
General chewing on stogie: “Mr. President, I believe we need to use [the most extreme weaponry available at the time].
If Kennedy could ignore Lemay on nuking Cuba, i think movie characters can too
like in Independence Day too
"Nuke 'em! Lets nuke the bastards!" 
Yeah, I'm sure the aliens are both unaware of earth's nuclear capabilities and also totally vulnerable to it.
"Fission?! We weren't prepared for THIS!"
They probably have mastered weaponry that we can't even conceive of
New-Fusion or Fusion 2 or something
[9:19 AM]  Mr. Brown.: 
That's why I think a rock will always work
Just throw a really big rock at them. They will be confused at it and forget to stop it
What started this talk though ?
[9:20 AM]  Mr. Blue: 
It will breach their shields because their shields only deflect high velocity projectiles and energy.
The cliche movie military general that only knows extreme force
[9:21 AM]  Mr. Brown.: 
haha
[9:22 AM]  Mr. Blue: 
I bought the digital copy of Alien because it was only like $5 in HD.. that movie is damn near perfect
It's crazy that it has more attention to detail and less flaws than the one they just released this past year, Alien Covenant
In 1979 they knew that landing on an alien planet you'd need suits... but in 2017 they just wear hiking gear
[9:24 AM]  Mr. Brown.: 
They try to play off the we can detect if you can survive so they can make less props
[9:25 AM]
Meanwhile any real planet that friendly to human life and in range would have people all over it.
[9:25 AM]  Mr. Blue: 
Yeah

Tuesday, July 16, 2019

547 - "The Hillfolk Have Eyes", "Is It Thick Yet?", (sings) "Always Marry A Fairy Girl, That's The Only Kind, Because She'll Always Leave You, And When She Does You Won't Mind"

[1:12 PM]  Mr. Brown.: 
I was thinking about that again
For sure very hoax like
[1:13 PM]  Mr. Blue: 
I think they saw something
[1:13 PM] 
I'm sure they did
[1:14 PM]  Mr. Brown.: 
They had friends there were Carnies there
[1:14 PM] 
It's bizarre and complicated to think up beyond the abilities of a lot of long time adventure gamers I know. 
[1:15 PM]  Mr. Brown.: 
So the best conclusion one came up with is owls and them being drunk
[1:16 PM] 
Because owls go plink! and don't die when you shoot 'em
heh
[1:16 PM]  Mr. Brown.: 
yep
lol
If they are from Clash of the Titans they go plink
[1:20 PM]  Mr. Blue: 
Were the 7 children who witnessed this drunk too?
So a meteor shower + aggressive owls + foxfire in the woods
"Aliens" would almost be a simpler explanation
I've heard owls hooting from time to time but never seen one in the wild.
The one that goes h-h-h-hoo-hoo
[1:31 PM]  Mr. Brown.: 
i've heard some scary stuff in the woods
[1:31 PM] 
I've heard all the sounds from "The Blair Witch Project" in the woods. 
(characters freaking out)
(me in theater) "Meh..."
"Clark describes "an odd luminous patch along a fence where one of the beings had been shot, and, in the woods beyond, a green light whose source could not be determined",[6] however this description was consistent with foxfire, a bioluminescent fungus on decaying wood. "
"...which hillfolk have never seen before.  
They have never seen owls either.  
(See 'The White Man Makes White Discovery' for cultural parallels)"
[3:01 PM]  Mr. Blue: 
heh
[3:02 PM] 
It's much less likely that the people that drew these stupid conclusions have ever seen either
[3:02 PM]  Mr. Blue: 
What kind of alcohol were they drinking that they could still properly operate multiple firearms but mistook owls for Marvin the Martian?
It just seems far fetched that all 3 unlikely things – a meteor shower, a bunch of rabid owls, and sudden nearby bioluminescence – happened simultaneously
"Aliens" is much more logical, even though i don't think it was aliens
Every time I bring up that article, things are added or omitted
i remember before there was a section of the character of the witnesses and how they were generally upstanding citizens, and that they seemed genuinely "terrified" when they went to the police
I also don't recall the part where they left town in the middle of the night when it kept happening
[3:06 PM] 
It used to be a huge article
[3:06 PM]  Mr. Blue: 
yes
This one seems shorter now, too https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dover_Demon
[3:14 PM] 
Drawing was removed
(It's back – Mr. Silver)
You know...the one that looks like an animal on a wall with headlights lighting it up?
[3:15 PM]  Mr. Brown.: 
Yeah it look smaller this time to me also
lol
[3:17 PM]  Mr. Blue: 
yeah
It's here
There's some kind of anti-conspiracy conspiracy to cover these up



[2:07 PM]  Mr. Brown.: 
That food i got was not bad
But they cannot make miso soup to save their lives
[2:08 PM] 
?
[2:08 PM]  Mr. Brown.: 
We ordered food from (Japanese Place) today
I got a bento box
[2:10 PM] 
I don't not like their miso soup, usually
Must be the cook who made it
[2:11 PM]  Mr. Blue: 
Soup generally sucks
I only eat soup if i'm sick
[2:12 PM]  Mr. Brown.: 
Chowdas are good
lol
[2:12 PM]  Mr. Blue: 
If it's thick i guess.
I like potato soup, but that's thick
[2:13 PM] 
I'm a Campbell's Split Pea with Ham man myself and have been since I first had it as a wee lad. 
But tomato...is basically a condiment for grilled cheese sandwiches.
[2:14 PM]  Mr. Brown.: 
Yes
And you have to put milk in it
[2:14 PM] 
And their Mushroom is a cooking ingredient
A nice potato is good.
[2:15 PM]  Mr. Brown.: 
I love potato
And chili
And have to have my clam chowda
[2:18 PM] 
Chili? If it's soup I call it "Bean Soup They Are Calling Chili"
I've tried clam chowder a few times.  Not for me. 
[2:19 PM]  Mr. Blue: 
Yeah i guess i like clam chowder and potato soup when not sick
But not as a full meal, maybe an appetizer
[2:19 PM]  Mr. Brown.: 
At a Chinese restaurant i always get the hot and sour soup
oh, pork and bean
Forgot about that
Good ole pork and bean
[2:21 PM] 
Pork and beans? 
Pork and beans isn't soup
Or are you referring to some sort of bean soup that has pork in it?
I'll make matzo ball occasionally.  I've only botched it twice. 
1st time and the most recent.
Out of the box version it's just broth and big bread balls
Surprisingly nice. 
But based on Mr. Blue's preferences, he'd probably want just the chicken flavored dough ball



[8:06 AM] 
This is proving interesting.
[8:22 AM]  Mr. Blue: 
So the only sane one thus far is a priest
[8:22 AM] 
Madness
Actually the original doctor sounded OK...if busy
Though I couldn't help picturing the KITH doctor that took his time eating slices of pie so long in the kitchen that the patient died in the next room.
[8:29 AM]  Mr. Blue: 
having a fairy wife seems fine to me
[8:30 AM] 
"Wull now, Mr. Boland, you've been here a couple times already so I know your girl must be in a bad way... (clicks tongue)... Saturday t'day.  What say I set aside some time for Wednesday and come have a look?"
(Same answer next 4 visits from Michael)
Mixed blessing, fairy mates
They're complicated, usually. 
Granted shamans often have spirit mates...similar I suppose but they have the type of mind or training for it. 
The fairy usually ends up leaving when the human messes up some rule.
But the kids tend to end up being exceptional - healers, bards, that sort of thing
(rolls back) As a folklore/anthy/shaman guy, what about a fairy wife appealed to you?
(I don't disagree, actually)
Cleary's obvious qualities in particular?
Clever, adventurous, educated, resourceful? 
[8:43 AM]  Mr. Blue: 
Well i just don't know of any negatives
The only ones mentioned in the story were she was taller and wanted milk
[8:47 AM] 
Which was not very negative, no.
[9:00 AM]  Mr. Brown.: 
right
Well i'm gonna be folding papers and stuffing envelops again today
[9:01 AM]  Mr. Blue: 
What are you doing, fulfillment?
[9:01 AM]  Mr. Brown.: 
Yeah, helping them out.
Brenda was getting people
Need a fairy for it, would be faster
[9:07 AM] 
"These...these envelopes have been changed to gold foil...  Wait.  Is this real gold?!?!"
"Aye...and the writin' inside as well."
"Why?"
"(considers) Well an' they were dull letters a'ter all."
"We need you to leave them as plain paper."
"Ah... as t' that I'd be havin' to have y' t'figger out me true name."
"(ponders) I think I'm going to take you off letters and on to something else.  These are Priority Mail boxes.  I need you to take...uh...these staplers and send them all to my address.  Thanks!"
(3 days later)
"So when I opened the boxes they were full of horse droppings!  Where were the gold staplers???"
"And what gold staplers would those be?  I can only do gold paper."
"But why HORSE DROPPINGS?"
"I can only mail what ye owe or own."
"AUGH!"
...this sort of thing is why fairy-mortal marriages can be problematic...
I'd tell a tale but at usual rates it'd take all day and I forget one of the taboos.  I'll see if I can find and post a link.
heh
(BTW if you didn't read the story I sent...well...it's a perfect example of wooing and marrying a fairy)
Hadn't read it in a long time and maybe not this text.  good one.
The classic Japanese Yuki-onna story is a scarier version but similar.  Nominally a "ghost" but it's spirit/fey