Saturday, September 17, 2016

379 - The Bible Of The Great Beaver, They Speaks English Good, Mr. Brown's Brain Needs Oxygen Like He Needs Another Hole In His Head, Helpless In A Box, and Robin Hood Tries A New Tactic In Social Activism

[‎12/‎8 11:53 AM] Mr. Blue:
If the Bible were legit, it would've provided info that wasn't readily available at the time.
Like maybe some crude description of gravity or that the earth revolves around the sun.
[‎12/‎8 11:54 AM] Ms. Rose:
I trust nothing that has been edited by single men without a system of check and balances. (Except for Wikipedia, of course.) :P
[‎12/‎8 11:54 AM] Mr. Silver:
Well it does!  There are 4 corners to the earth.
There ya go!
[‎12/‎8 12:08 PM] Mr. Blue:
I guess as the saying goes “extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence”.
I’m not gonna worship a particular god because Wikipedia says so, but if Wikipedia says Margaret Thatcher was born with 12 fingers... sure, why not?
[‎12/‎8 12:08 PM] Mr. Silver:
I know I don't.
[‎12/‎8 12:09 PM] Mr. Blue:
All religions have some crazy claims, but no evidence.
[‎12/‎8 12:09 PM] Ms. Rose:
Religion is bad. Faith/belief in something other than yourself is good.
I believe in drugs. So therefore I am better than everyone else. :P
[‎12/‎8 12:10 PM] Mr. Brown:
(fingers in ears) LALALALALALALALALALALALALAL
[‎12/‎8 12:10 PM] Ms. Rose:
Mr. Brown believes in beavers.
[‎12/‎8 12:11 PM] Mr. Brown:
The Great Beaver will build you up and damn your tears of pain
[‎12/‎8 12:11 PM] Ms. Rose:
That's the funniest thing you've ever said. EVER.
[‎12/‎8 12:15 PM] Mr. Silver:
I submit "Wiener Horse"
[‎12/‎8 12:18 PM] Ms. Rose:
That's the second-funniest thing you've ever said. EVER.
[‎12/‎8 12:20 PM] Mr. Silver:
She missed a lot...
[‎12/‎8 12:21 PM] Ms. Rose:
*She doesn't remember a lot.
[‎12/‎8 12:22 PM] Mr. Brown:
LOL
Yeah, I have not pulled anything crazy out in a long time
[‎12/‎8 12:23 PM] Mr. Silver:
The main reasons I was intrigued with shamanism and started looking into it was because:
1. Its extremely old compared to everything (except maybe animism).
2. Its a 1st person experience.
3. It's not a One True system.
4. It's not a religion.
5. It meshes with everything
Knowing the certainty of people making a mess of the good words and intentions of religious innovators, I figured if there was any link to divinity that actually worked, it was gonna be the first one.
[‎12/‎8 12:31 PM] Mr. Brown:
I, Shaman”
GREAT Beaver Spirit will always slap the great tail of warning!
[‎12/‎8 12:32 PM] Ms. Rose:
If I were proficient in Photoshop, I'd make a picture of Mr. Silver as a Tauren shaman, throwing down totems. Because...WoW.
[‎12/‎8 12:32 PM] Mr. Brown:
They should make a beaver mount on WoW.
Great Beaver can chew through your many layers to the heart of your spirit.
[‎12/‎8 12:37 PM] Mr. Silver:
I've met Beaver...he's about beaver sized.  Helped dress me in ritual clothing as part of a great congress of spirit animals in a glade.
It was a good session.
I've never really gone to chat with him though.
[‎12/‎8 12:39 PM] Mr. Brown:
He chews on the Great Tree of Life to keep his teeth strong and of perfect length.
The Great Beaver gives of his glands to create the Great Cherry Pop of enlightenment.
[‎12/‎8 12:45 PM] Mr. Silver:
Getting into Flying Spaghetti Monster territory there, dude.
The last shamanic trip I took was really bizarre
I left this universe, or this part of the universe, and looked in on 3 others.
Very unnerving. I doubt I'll do it again.
They were all too alien. I couldn't communicate with anything, though I tried. It's usually easy...you just talk and, at least to me, everything in the spirit realms sounds like English.
There was an innumerable field of bubbles "outside" and I was finished for good after only 3, and those were the 3 that actually attracted my attention.
[‎12/‎8 1:04 PM] Ms. Rose:
Leave for lunch and come back to glands and universes (universi?) and bubbles. I love yinz guys.



[‎12/‎10 11:52 AM] Ms. Rose:
(Totally unrelated. This is kind of a big deal to me. I have so many awkwardly-worded emair responses because of the dumb singular "they." http://mentalfloss.com/article/72262/washington-post-style-guide-now-accepts-singular-they)
[‎12/‎10 12:02 PM] Mr. Silver:
"Washington Post Accepts Vernacular English - Anglo Civilization Doomed Say English Teachers"
[‎12/‎10 12:03 PM] Mr. Blue:
I wasn't aware “they” wasn't singular.
In my head I consider it mostly plural, but not exclusively.
You could use “it”, I suppose.
[‎12/‎10 12:04 PM] Ms. Rose:
But you couldn't say "My friend--it is having a birthday today."
[‎12/‎10 12:05 PM] Mr. Silver:
"A crowd of 2 English professors and a librarian picketed the front doors of the Washington Post this morning, carrying signs of grammatical rules in such voluminous small-font text that dis-interested bystandards couldn't read them."
[‎12/‎10 12:05 PM] Ms. Rose:
LOL
[‎12/‎10 12:05 PM] Mr. Silver:
standers
[‎12/‎10 12:05 PM] Ms. Rose:
Bystandards is funny though. Sounds like something Trump would say.
Or Ricky from Trailer Park Boys.
[‎12/‎10 12:05 PM] Mr. Silver:
Yes...technically "they" is a no no, Mr. Blue.
But in practice, everyone knows the intention.
Like can and may
[‎12/‎10 12:06 PM] Ms. Rose:
But like the article says, it's perfectly normal in spoken language. Just weird that it was a "rule" in the first place.
Yeah. "Can I go pee?" .... "I don't know, Billy. CAN you go pee?!"
[‎12/‎10 12:08 PM] Mr. Silver:
See a doctor, Billy
[‎12/‎10 12:08 PM] Ms. Rose:
*Billy pees on floor and flips off teacher. Goes home and writes amazing ungrammatical rock ballad.*



[‎12/‎10 11:19 AM] Mr. Brown:
So I think I solved my own issue of stress
[‎12/‎10 11:19 AM] Mr. Blue:
Heheh
Quit job, leave wife & kids”
[‎12/‎10 11:19 AM] Mr. Brown:
I need to use my sleep apnea machine
I used it last night and feel better today already
LOL
[‎12/‎10 11:19 AM] Mr. Silver:
It's almost like you got one because it was prescribed or recommended. Good thing you just had one.
[‎12/‎10 11:19 AM] Mr. Brown:
Lack of oxygen makes Mr. Brown an unhappy man
[‎12/‎10 11:19 AM] Ms. Rose:
Drugs. The answer is always drugs.
Just say YES!
[‎12/‎10 11:20 AM] Mr. Silver:
I'd think your oxygen starved brain cells would leave you fairly relaxed after the initial physiological panic.
[‎12/‎10 11:21 AM] Mr. Blue:
Maybe try trepanation
[‎12/‎10 11:21 AM] Mr. Silver:
There you go...head demons.
Let those bastards out.
[‎12/‎10 11:21 AM] Mr. Blue:
I wonder how trepanation affects like...flying in an airplane or physical contact sports
[‎12/‎10 11:22 AM] Mr. Brown:
LOL
[‎12/‎10 11:26 AM] Ms. Rose:
*depressed woman smelling flowers* *noticeable but not in anyway grotesque rash* "Have your friends ever told you they need something 'like a hole in the head?' Introducing... Trepanation XL (tm) from Pfizer. Ask your doctor today!"
*14 minutes of side effects*
[‎12/‎10 11:29 AM] Mr. Silver:
"Users of Trepanation XL show a marked increase of cranial leakage from 0 to any higher percent.  Ask your doctor if a cork is right for you."
[‎12/‎10 11:29 AM] Ms. Rose:
HAHAHAHA!
[‎12/‎10 11:42 AM] Mr. Silver:
"You've clubbed your skull!  Sawed your skull!  Even hatchets don't work!  Now you don't have to!  Prescription strength cranial demon release is just a drill away with Trepanation XL!"
[‎12/‎10 11:49 AM] Mr. Blue:
(bunch of b&w re-enactments of a guy bumbling around with a hammer and chisel on his forehead)
[‎12/‎10 11:50 AM] Ms. Rose:
And the big red X going through that image. "Now there's a better way!"



[‎12/‎11 8:12 AM] Mr. Green:
Wow... Really? 
[‎12/‎11 8:16 AM] Mr. Silver:
Yup...baby cages.
Imagine being stuck in a box all day...only being let out for short periods to eat and relieve yourself until you are brought in to relax for a while before bed.
(looks at cube walls)  Awww crap....
[‎12/‎11 8:23 AM] Mr. Blue:
LOL
[‎12/‎11 8:24 AM] Mr. Green:
L..... COL. :'(



[‎12/‎11 1:51 PM] Mr. Silver:
"None of the companies have provided a complete set of requested documents to the committee yet."
"We're still shred- collecting those, ma'am."
[‎12/‎11 2:04 PM] Mr. Blue:
Why didn't that guy just like.. triple the price?
Nobody would have noticed
Why did he have to raise it like 7000% more?
[‎12/‎11 2:06 PM] Mr. Silver:
So he could afford a Wu Tang Clan album
Priorities, Mr. Blue...priorities...
[‎12/‎11 2:08 PM] Mr. Blue:
Someone should probably just kill him
Can we have a Robin Hood type hit squad that kills people that are really really deserving of it?
Like the Kochs or George Soros?
[‎12/‎11 2:16 PM] Mr. Silver:
(Allan-a-Dale sings) "He kills all the scum!  And gives to mankind!  Hitman Hood!  Hitman Hood!  Hitman Hood!"
(Scumbag surrounded by assassins in Lincoln green) "Are you planning to ransom me for a billion dollars or something?  It won't work.  It's all wrapped up in my business."
(Hearty laughter)
(Hitman Hood) "Mere money?  Silly little man!  Your company can keep it!  We want to gift the world with something far better, don't we, lads?"
(Cheers!)
(Hitman Hood) "Little John - the saber saw!  Will Scarlet - the webcam!  Come, let's see how black our new friend's heart is!"
[‎12/‎11 2:24 PM] Mr. Blue:
I don't understand the wu tang album thing either
Why'd he buy it?
And why make an album if there's a chance someone will buy it and throw it in a fire?

Thursday, September 15, 2016

378 - Mr. Blue's Sensible Immigration Policies, and All Religious Extremists Need Is A Good Prescription Of Ritual -- Be It Chemical Or Magical

[‎12/‎8 8:31 AM] Mr. Blue:
At what point do people acknowledge, like, hey maybe Muslims are a problem? Not all. But a much higher percentage than any other group or ethnicity or nationality. And that we obviously suck at vetting.
I saw people spreading a stat that, since 9/11, 44 deaths were from Muslim extremists in the US, 45 from Christian extremists.
Uhh... what's the ratio of Muslims to Christians in the US? 200-1?
200 Christians to 1 Muslim?
UK & France and pretty much all of Europe is a testament to how poorly they integrate.
10 child sex rings exposed in the UK in the past 15 years... hundreds of arrests.. all Pakistani Muslims.
That's an epidemic
Plus the occasional random rampage
[‎12/‎8 8:36 AM] Mr. Silver:
Yet, what do you propose?
[‎12/‎8 8:38 AM] Mr. Blue:
A sensible immigration policy
[‎12/‎8 8:38 AM] Mr. Silver:
Me? I dunno...maybe prescribing a course of E
"Take one of these a day for 2 weeks and f-ing relax."
It was used as therapy before and is starting again...remarkable results.
Think of it as a mental illness...which I think it is anyway.
If it was a virulent one, the CDC would be looking for a cure.
[‎12/‎8 8:40 AM] Mr. Blue:
Build an immigration “wall”. Sort out the illegal immigrants we already have here (I’d do a mix of amnesty for those that are assimilating and contributing, and deportation for those that are not)
Nobody from the Middle East. Tell Saudi Arabia and Israel to help their neighbors
I’m very liberal but very Middle East anti-immigration
Because statistically, they're moochers and crooks. Not all, but too many.
I guess I’m kind of...imposed nationalist/nativist
You can't just depopulate a region every time there's a conflict and move everyone to the West. That doesn't help anyone and in fact enables the people/groups that cause the conflict in the first place.
I think I’d be fine with families, elderly, orphans seeking refuge.
But single dudes in their 20s?
Go fight for your country!
There's female Kurdish troops fighting ISIS and you are fleeing to Germany?
You see those refugees hurling rocks at the Macedonian border, holding a sign that said “OPEN OR DIE”? I don't want them.
They were all dudes, by themselves, threatening violence if not helped, but not willing to fight for their homes.



[‎12/‎8 9:02 AM] Mr. Silver:
I still like my mental illness analogy (for Islamic Extremism)
They don't need prisons or execution or military intervention.  They need doctors.
[‎12/‎8 9:04 AM] Ms. Rose:
I like my mental illness too, Mr. Silver
Oh! ANALOGY! Yes, that's what I meant.
[‎12/‎8 9:19 AM] Mr. Silver:
[‎12/‎8 9:19 AM] Mr. Blue:
So how do you get 1.6 billion people the mental help they need?
[‎12/‎8 9:20 AM] Mr. Silver:
Well, it's not all of them, obviously.
Used responsibly, alcohol can be a pleasurable experience - social, fun, relaxing.”
Used responsibly, Islam can be a pleasurable experience - social, fun, relaxing.”
They've been drinking too much Islam...drinking rotgut Islam.
[‎12/‎8 9:21 AM] Mr. Blue:
That goes for any religion. Christianity has the KKK and Boko Haram and WBC (though WBC is harmless, just annoying). There's Buddhists in Cambodia chopping people up. Still, it seems like the % of crazies in Islam is way higher, and the path from normal to crazy is much shorter and has fewer obstacles than other religions
[‎12/‎8 9:21 AM] Mr. Silver:
Yes
I would, in fact, recommend the same general classification.
[‎12/‎8 9:29 AM] Mr. Brown:
Bomb full of Xanax
[‎12/‎8 9:30 AM] Mr. Blue:
^good idea
[‎12/‎8 9:30 AM] Mr. Brown:
Solve all world problems. Every 8 hours bomb messed up places with Xanax
[‎12/‎8 9:30 AM] Mr. Blue:
How about a Xanax inhalant you spray like you're cropdusting?
[‎12/‎8 9:30 AM] Mr. Brown:
Yep
[‎12/‎8 9:31 AM] Mr. Blue:
"Hey, those Palestinians are getting uppity again."
"Ehh... Get the planes ready."
[‎12/‎8 9:31 AM] Mr. Brown:
World peace
LOL
Everybody is happy
[‎12/‎8 9:33 AM] Mr. Blue:
Maybe we should drop PS4s and copies of COD and GTA V into the middle east
let 'em get their aggression out in a healthy manner
[‎12/‎8 9:36 AM] Mr. Silver:
So, like the Gay Bomb plan.
Telling you...just put 'em on a course of E for a few sessions.
[‎12/‎8 9:38 AM] Ms. Rose:
The Xanax bomb/dusting thing would work for about a week. It would provide a brief economic stimulus (because it's a known side effect to spend/steal recklessly--not just me) but then everyone would build up tolerance and the effects would rapidly wear off and before you know it, everyone is seizing out and then you have a healthcare crisis.
Xanax and benzos hit the same receptors in your brain as alcohol, but with no tummy/motor skills effects. And it's one of the few categories of drugs that has a real half-life, in terms of dependency. Unlike alcohol, the first time you take, your tolerance is cut in half. Then half again. And again. Until you're taking handfuls at a time to get 5 minutes of "relief."
Then the seizures start. And you can die from them. Benzos are more dangerous that heroin, IMO.
[‎12/‎8 9:41 AM] Mr. Blue:
Well, you shouldn't take it all the time every day, just as needed.
I’ve been taking Ativan for 6+ years without issue
[‎12/‎8 9:42 AM] Ms. Rose:
I have a script for Ativan, too. It's usually empty in about 5-6 days.
[‎12/‎8 9:43 AM] Mr. Blue:
Jesus
[‎12/‎8 9:43 AM] Ms. Rose:
But "as needed" to a junkie is something entirely different! ;)
[‎12/‎8 9:43 AM] Mr. Brown:
Zoloft is what they had me on, I believe
[‎12/‎8 9:43 AM] Ms. Rose:
That's an SSRI. Totally different.
[‎12/‎8 9:43 AM] Mr. Brown:
I ballooned to 215 lb and promptly got off the stuff
[‎12/‎8 9:44 AM] Ms. Rose:
Selective seratonin non-reuptake inhibitor. (I love that term. Fun to say and spell.)
[‎12/‎8 9:44 AM] Mr. Brown:
I was having small anxiety attacks, so instead of helping me with them they just fed me the pills.
I got a new doc. He took me off them
I’ve been fine now
[‎12/‎8 9:45 AM] Ms. Rose:
Then your doctor was an idiot. Zoloft and SSRIs/SSNRIs take at least 3 weeks to "work."
[‎12/‎8 9:45 AM] Mr. Brown:
No, I was very happy
I took it every day
Like I said; I ended up weighing 215 lbs
lol
[‎12/‎8 9:45 AM] Ms. Rose:
If you have anxiety, you can't wait 3 weeks. lol
You boys just ask Aunt Rose if your doctor prescribes something. Chances are I've read about it and/or abused it.
[‎12/‎8 9:53 AM] Mr. Blue:
It's interesting how the things most meds are used for weren't it's original purpose
Benzodiazepines are mostly anti-seizure meds
Anti-histamines were mostly anti-depressants
Some anti-depressants were anti-histamines
Viagra was for like, blood clotting or something
[‎12/‎8 9:55 AM] Ms. Rose:
Look how many things Botox is used for now.
[‎12/‎8 9:55 AM] Mr. Silver:
It's not just for horrible paralysis and death anymore!
[‎12/‎8 9:56 AM] Mr. Blue:
yep
[‎12/‎8 9:56 AM] Ms. Rose:
Migraines, skin problems, breathing disorders...and acute Hollywood-ism.
[‎12/‎8 9:56 AM] Mr. Blue:
Heh
They used to put lithium in 7-Up
Also, in places where natural levels of lithium in drinking water are higher, suicide is lower
[‎12/‎8 9:59 AM] Ms. Rose:
Mom works at a group home for half-crazy folks and they still use Lithium. It's super effective. My mom gets to play with (I mean, "distribute") all kinds of fun drugs. I keep asking her if I can take an educational field trip to her workplace.
[‎12/‎8 9:59 AM] Mr. Blue:
Yeah, I thought it was out of favor but at the eye doctor I overheard a lady tell them she was taking it
I read up on it... still used and relatively tolerable
[‎12/‎8 10:00 AM] Ms. Rose:
Oldie, but a goodie.
[‎12/‎8 10:00 AM] Mr. Blue:
Just a type of salt
They prescribe St John's Wort in Germany for mild depression
I’ve tried it and didn't notice anything though
[‎12/‎8 10:02 AM] Ms. Rose:
Same. I "tried" kava and some of those other "natural" highs.
I'm sorry to be annoying with all the drug talk. I don't mean to hi-jack conversations. :(
[‎12/‎8 10:09 AM] Mr. Brown:
I drink beer. Seems to work
[‎12/‎8 10:38 AM] Mr. Silver:
Don't take anything, myself
I can't relate with you jet set types and your chemical parties
I probably missed it all because I've never told anyone in a white coat that I'm stressed out most of the time.
(head shrinker) "I see...what meds are you taking for it."
"None.  Well...rum or martinis or shamanic journeywork."
"This is serious.  Take a sample of these.  They're very effective in cases of non-dependence.  They don't mix with the booze, so cut down to half."
I dunno...lotta voodoo in these drugs
"Starts working in 3 weeks"
And placebos test well
What do they actually do that takes that long?
Why does a magic prescription work as well?
"I have great anxiety, babalao."
"A servant of the Serpent loa is coiled around your heart.  Pour a splash of red wine on this stone every day before dinner.  It will take about 3 weeks to loosen him."
[‎12/‎8 11:18 AM] Mr. Blue:
3 weeks? Dunno, probably to build it up in your system
I noticed them right away
[‎12/‎8 11:23 AM] Mr. Silver:
3 weeks of adherence to ceremony is plenty of time to visualize it all away, and usually more than enough for any life situations or minor mood influencing inflammations to pass.
[‎12/‎8 11:24 AM] Mr. Blue:
I had 26 years to visualize it all away
[‎12/‎8 11:24 AM] Mr. Silver
Did you consult a witch doctor to attach a ritual at any point?
[‎12/‎8 11:24 AM] Ms. Rose:
Let me just say... you all have penises and few hormones. I NEED DRUGS FOR MY TINY WOMAN BRAIN!
[‎12/‎8 11:24 AM] Mr. Silver:
This is all an anthropologist considering the power of cultural ritual, BTW
I've never used the chemical stuff so have no clue.
Just "take this thing and believe...it takes 21 days..." sounds specifically familiar.
Meanwhile I have a shot of vodka and am happy in a few minutes.
[‎12/‎8 11:29 AM] Ms. Rose:
But what if that stuff doesn't give "instant gratification" anymore? The 3-weeks thing is what docs told me. After prescribing one anti-depressant after another. "Hmmm, these usually work immediately in dudes and non-addicts. Let's try it for another 3 weeks and then we'll switch you."
3 weeks, or whenever the office runs out of free samples, whichever comes first.
[‎12/‎8 11:32 AM] Mr. Silver:
(folk healer) "It didn't work?  It's a bad case.  Switch to white wine."
[‎12/‎8 11:38 AM] Mr. Blue:
But I can't believe. I'm a de-bunker. A chronic debunker
[‎12/‎8 11:42 AM] Mr. Silver:
You believe in science. A modern gateway faith
No scientist has ever fudged his results for profit, after all.
...which, oddly enough, is one of the main arguments of climate change deniers.
[‎12/‎8 11:45 AM] Ms. Rose:
Mmmm. Fudge.
[‎12/‎8 11:46 AM] Mr. Blue:
I'd rather take medication based on the advice of people in lab coats over a naked guy with a bone through his nose
[‎12/‎8 11:49 AM] Mr. Silver:
Bone through the nose is SO Hollywood.
Probably more people in LA do it than shamans, really.