Day 22 - Forget "Dungeons & Dragons"; the most popular game is "Morons & Monsters"

Mr. Silver
"I have a gizmo set to show what time it is down in Florida while I'm up here.”
"So...same time as in Ohio then..."

10:00 AM Mr. Blue

incredible!

Mr. Blue

watched Troll 2 again last night

it'd be a fun movie to watch if it didn't make me so nauseous

10:20 AM Mr. Silver

"Filmed in Stomach-Cramp-O-Rama!"

10:21 AM Mr. Blue

extreme close-ups on very unattractive people

and the whole premise is that the goblins force these people to eat this greenish icing stuff for them to turn into plants

so everything is covered in this nasty green stuff and everyone is eating it and smearing themselves with it

and there's tons of shots/references of curdled milk.. for no reason that i can tell

10:24 AM Mr. Silver

"They're EATING HER.  And then they're going to EAT ME!"

                (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=drfnCSkng-A enjoy – Mr. Silver)

10:25 AM Mr. Blue

that dude.. he sees a girl running through the woods, so what does he do? he tackles her

then stays on top of her

whoever wrote the script is not of this world

10:25 AM Mr. Silver

Its goblin humor

Mr. Blue

Caller wanted to know if “The Tamarack” still sells John Deere riding lawnmowers

“I wouldn't have any idea.”

Then she wanted to know the # of a local tractor dealer.

“Again, I wouldn't have any idea.”

So she called me an "old Jew" and told me to have a good day.

Mr. Silver
Speaking of inane and pointless:  http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/05/27/republican-jobs-plan-pushes-tax-cuts-and-deregulation/

1:22 PM Mr. Blue

I think both parties are just trying to get THEIR stuff passed so that, when the economy inevitably rebounds on its own, they can claim credit for it

lowering taxes, reducing federal regulations, increasing domestic energy production, boosting trade and discouraging frivolous lawsuits.

got nothin' wrong with any of that, but it won't do squat for the economy

1:23 PM Mr. Silver
"We're trying to package this in a way where the American people believe it'll work, since historically every proposal in it has been debunked by unbiased economists, utter past failure, and simple logic."
"We must take definitive action to get more money to rich people before the economy collapses to middle ages levels"

1:24 PM Mr. Blue

heheh

1:26 PM Mr. Silver
"Just because we proposed it in the past doesn't mean it's not a good idea," House of Representatives Speaker John Boehner told a Capitol Hill news conference. "Because it's never been a good idea.  It just means it worked in our friends' favor every time we've succeeded."
1:27 PM Mr. Silver
"Holy COW has it worked!"  The representative then gave a thumbs-up and then a peace sign, shouting "Free money coming guys!  Peace out!"

1:28 PM Mr. Blue

"We’ve also prepared a full takeover of the private food industry so that we can begin to transition to a porridge-and-stew based diet."

"With caviar, truffles and dolphin meat for the richest 1%."

they should propose a serfdom

and just say god told them to do it

1:29 PM Mr. Silver

Stew would imply being able to afford meat, sir. You mean vegetable stew?

Day 21 - "I Speak 'Foreign'" also Hot, Hot, Really Hot, Primal Universe Hot, and some Jokes

8:30 AM Mr. Brown

It is hot in here

8:30 AM Mr. Blue

yep

8:31 AM Mr. Silver

It's just me

(flips ponytail)

Seriously though...supposed to get to 83F, AC doesn't seem to be working so well again, and I had to wear a long sleeved shirt today.

8:33 AM Mr. Brown

I’m glad i said F it and wore just this Penguins t-shirt

8:33 AM Mr. Blue

you rebel

8:33 AM Mr. Brown

but i really wish we was allowed to wear shorts right now

8:33 AM Mr. Silver

Not til tomorrow.

how nice

8:34 AM Mr. Blue

hope it rains today

8:35 AM Mr. Silver

Hope it rains IN HERE today

8:51 AM Mr. Silver

"The Great Race" is one of those movies with so many "things" in it that I'm still catching stuff I didn't after a couple dozen viewings

Example:

The villains, Professor Fate and Maximilian, are in their Gothic, lushly decorated mansion

The dining room has a moose head on the wall

There's a disturbance...they run for the garage to check the alarm. 

I'd never noticed – as they leave the dining room and run though the next room, the ENTIRE MOOSE is standing on the other side of the wall with it's head stuck through to the dining room.

8:59 AM Mr. Blue

heheh

9:02 AM Mr. Blue

any others?

9:25 AM Mr. Silver

Well...another catch that took me a long time to spot and prove (years ago) was during the ballroom scene.  The drunkard prince swoops through the crowd, dancing with a man. 

If you aren't looking at the right place, you'd never know, and with Tony Curtis's character in such pure white clothing though the whole movie, the eye is usually dragged to him.

Mr. Brown

A skeleton walks into a bar. bartender says “Hey you're the first skeleton we have had in here. What can i get ya?”

“Well its a hot day, I’ll take a beer and a mop.”

11:02 AM Mr. Blue

i think i told this one already but I’ll re-tell it for Mr. Silver:

11:02 AM Mr. Blue

A guy walks into a bar with a big, bright orange head. The bartender looks at him and says "Jesus, what happened to you?"

"Well, i met this genie, and he gave me three wishes.  The first wish, i wished for a Lamborghini." 

and the guy pointed to a car parked out along the street. 

"The second wish, I wished for a young, beautiful wife."

and he pointed to the woman standing next to his car outside.

"well, what happened with the third wish?" the bartender asked. 

"That's where I think I mighta went wrong.  See, I wished for a giant, bright orange head."

Mr. Brown

Reading about the Leather Man

         (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leatherman_%28vagabond%29 – Mr. Silver)

11:46 AM Mr. Silver

From "The Village People"?

Mr. Blue

http://www.cosmosmagazine.com/news/4350/gamma-ray-burst-closest-yet-big-bang

Mr. Silver

"when the universe was still in its relative infancy, less than 4% of its current age, said Schmidt, who likened the finding to a "baby picture" of the universe. "

“Dr. Schmidt offered to show the press these baby pictures. Some of us politely looked and others made ourselves scarce."

"Several of the women reporters crowded in with cooing noises, and one stated the gamma ray burst had its father's energy signature."

Ms. Amethyst

i went fishing yesterday from 9 am to 8:30 pm, out all day on the lake, and got fried like a lobster. I'm fire engine red with the exception of my bathing suit tan lines

Mr. Silver

I learned the hard way from the Pennsic War to fear the sun.

3:06 PM Ms. Amethyst

yup

3:06 PM Mr. Silver

I'd get a bit of burn every year and deal with it...until...

I was asked to be the standard bearer for a bunch of knights and crew.

3:09 PM Ms. Amethyst

lol

3:09 PM Mr. Silver

That was a big deal in the middle ages

That was your colors...you kept that UP no matter what

3:10 PM Ms. Amethyst

yeah

3:10 PM Mr. Silver

So I stood out in the sun for hours

in sandals...everything exposed on my feet was deep purple

I could barely walk

3:12 PM Ms. Amethyst

yup

sun poisoning

and it hurts

3:12 PM Mr. Silver

yup

cold shower water burned them

3:14 PM Ms. Amethyst

ohh I'm sure

3:16 PM Mr. Silver

Since then, Mrs. Silver and I, if we have no sunscreen and are going to be out, declare "Pennsic Rules today" 

3:23 PM Ms. Amethyst

nice

lol

3:31 PM Mr. Silver

Shadow-to-shadow.   Doesn't work in a boat.  Bleh

Sorry

8:25 AM Mr. Yellow

I hate not having admin rights on this computer

8:25 AM Mr. Silver

"Down, peasant!"

(admiring a co-worker's gothy purse with it's very non-Japanese-looking geisha)

Mr. Silver “A geisha on a skull...interesting.”

Coworker “Yeah! I like skulls.”

Mr. Silver “Well, skulls are cool things. I have one myself.”

Coworker “Really? Tattoo?”

Mr. Silver “No. In my head.”

Coworker “... Oh! Hehe!”

(free lunch at work for Memorial Day)

Mr. Silver

Lunch ratings: hotdog 7, burger 2

"Hamburger made with real "Meet" brand food product."

3:33 PM Mr. Silver

Right...fleeing soon

Got a blog hit from Denmark, BTW

3:36 PM Mr. Blue

Jutland savages!

3:37 PM Mr. Silver

Do they eat danish in Denmark?

3:37 PM Mr. Brown

“Dem marks are crazy”

3:38 PM Mr. Silver

... ...You want me to put these comments about our Dane brothers in the blog, don't you?

3:40 PM Mr. Blue

yes

3:43 PM Mr. Silver

(sigh)

Mr. Brown

Ehh

3:44 PM Mr. Silver

I guess I'll explain that game**...couldn't hurt for the future.  No telling when we'll start goofing on "the old country" again

3:44 PM Mr. Brown

as long as they can take a joke

3:47 PM Mr. Silver

Don't be ridiculous...of course they can...they're from Denmark.

3:48 PM Mr. Brown

Lol

** The "I Speak 'Foreign'" Game

Mr. Blue and I indulge in a number of “Games”. This one in particular is the “I Speak 'Foreign'” game (which itself is an obnoxious sub-game of a post-apocalyptic roleplaying setting I wrote. [which was added after seeing that line and the inspired awful behavior in a 'Discworld' novel.]). It largely involves the pair of us pretending to be prejudiced American louts and riffing on both commonly believed (and outright made up) cultural stereotypes, our own personal genealogies, and a variety of historical nonsense. Rest assured, both Mr. Blue and I are avidly interested and respectful of other cultures (I went to college to study them, myself) and are merely mocking the dim bulbs, uneducated twerps, and “loutish Americans” we meet and speak to, some of the co-workers we have to overhear (Oooo! I said it!) and goobers we see on TV. So if any of you wonderful readers run across a new person throwing a fit over some comment about...oh, I dunno - ”The Portuguese”...point them to Day 21.

P.S. Fair warning to Germany since I've seen you peeking: Mr. Blue's family is only a couple generations American, and straight German before that.  My uncle has lived there about 50 years and my dad loved the place.  So, you might come up.  A lot.  Don't hate us, we like you.

                                                                                                                    Mr. Silver

Day 20 - Solid Holes, Political Stress, Alien Time Travel ... oh, just loads of goodies today.

9:14 AM Mr. Silver (extended factory reset attempt - Mr. Silver)

"I can't push the paperclip in it...it's a solid hole."
"I see...and does it have the mass of numerous suns and an event horizon?"

9:19 AM Mr. Blue

lol

9:31 AM Mr. Blue

"Oh my God, it's full of stars!"

9:59 AM Mr. Blue

i wonder how medicated the last few presidents have been in order to deal with the stress and anxiety without having massive stomach ulcers or heart attacks

i feel like puking if i have to talk in front of 10-12 people

if i had to speak in front of congress, and on TV, the amount of sweat/poop/pee/vomit that would exit my body would be astronomical

10:06 AM Mr. Brown

i would just shake a lot then have to go to the bathroom

lol

10:17 AM Mr. Silver

This is why none of us are politicians.

10:18 AM Mr. Blue

probably

10:33 AM Mr. Silver

lunch

10:33 AM Mr. Blue

glad i brought up sweat/poop/pee/vomit then

        (later)

10:59 AM Mr. Silver

yes, lunch was delish

Mr. Brown

On something Mr. Blue and i talked about yesterday after you left Mr. Silver

8:35 AM Mr. Brown

Mr. Blue said he thinks the types of aliens is us in different points of the future, just coming back to visit the past

So i told him how I read somewhere that people also think that they are aliens that are reincarnated as humans.

8:35 AM Mr. Blue

well, I don't think that, but it's more plausible to me that they are time traveling humans rather than interplanetary visiting aliens

8:36 AM Mr. Brown

well yeah

i was trying to think of a good way to word that

lol

Its one of your thoughts

8:36 AM Mr. Blue

yes

11:10 AM Mr. Brown

i was wondering if maybe the aliens are us coming back in time to fix us

11:18 AM Mr. Brown

Then maybe there are two futures

one is the Greys'

other is the Nordics'

11:19 AM Mr. Blue

maybe

one is with a nuclear holocaust, the other is without

11:20 AM Mr. Brown

Nordics is we start working together and heal the planet

Greys is we destroy everything

lol

11:22 AM Mr. Blue

perhaps they are in a war together

through the past

because they each like their own futures

11:26 AM Mr. Blue

so one goes back in time, alters something slightly. And then the other group is suddenly like – "Um, what just happened?" and then it's up to them to go back in time and find what was changed and fixed it, without being obviously spotted or changing the future drastically

11:28 AM Mr. Brown

Time Cop

11:28 AM Mr. Blue

so the Greys go back in time and float an object over state college that looks like a jet, only its stationary. Some guy called "Mr. Silver" notices it and it bugs him.. he ends up staring at it for a while and asking his friends about it. One of his friends sees it and looks so long that he misses a test. He fails the class. He drops out of school. He doesn't grow up to be the politician and future president of the United Nations that he would have been without this stationary jet object. The world is doomed. Now the Nordics have to go back and fix it

12:37 PM Mr. Blue

Mr. Brown, you seem to have lost weight

12:55 PM Mr. Brown

What ?

12:55 PM Mr. Blue

you look slimmer

12:55 PM Mr. Brown

only if i stand up straight

lol

12:56 PM Mr. Blue

you've lost weight

you dying?

12:56 PM Mr. Brown

i have not been drinking as much beer

and i did a lot of work outside recently

sweated my balls off

12:56 PM Mr. Blue

well there you go

balls weigh a lot

2:17 PM Mr. Silver (6 hours into an issue – Mr. Silver)

      9:11 AM Mr. Blue

      I think it's gonna be ok. I have a feeling this is going to be fixed very swiftly

The sarcasm is still drippy.

2:17 PM Mr. Brown

lol

2:39 PM Mr. Silver

(Aspiring Novice Nun at Highschool graduation)  "Well, we graduated! Then summer vacation, and then off to the monastery!" 

(A.N. #2) "Yeah! Where were you accepted?" 

(A.N.) "Santa Croce, Gerusalemme." 

(A.N.#2)  "Cool!  Total party cloister!" 

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/05/24/pope-shuts-down-famous-party-monastery-with-prancing-nuns/

2:40 PM Mr. Blue

heh, just read that

(I usually correct spelling and grammar for this blog...however in this case... - Mr. Silver)

2:49 PM Mr. Brown

i swear they created a monster with the internet barly ever going out in town.

because now that its been down for as long as most areas are, these people are bitchy

2:57 PM Mr. Silver

"Well, it accidentally picked up craving for human flesh (my bad on that one), extraordinary strength, and a tendency to panic and rampage when surprised by loud noises...but on the upside, his internet connection is rock solid."

2:58 PM Mr. Blue

just add internet barley

3:00 PM Mr. Silver

maybe it was "barFly"

“i swear they created a monster with the internet barfly ever going out in town.”

3:10 PM Mr. Silver

Her spawn is unstoppable

3:11 PM Mr. Brown

lives for short periods of time but there is always another .

3:12 PM Mr. Silver

Load her up with drinks and she goes down. 

(I actually wrote that...)

Mr. Green

well, at least I'm not that guy... http://www.armstrongmywire.com/news/read.php?rip_id=%3CD9NE99T00%40news.ap.org%3E&ps=1020&_LT=HOME_LARSDCCL2_UNEWS

8:05 AM Mr. Silver

"bubble butt" indeed.

8:06 AM Mr. Green

LOL

Mr. Gray

I wonder if he made that sound balloons make when they pulled the hose out LOL

10:16 AM Mr. Silver

Mr. Whoopie Cushion

"May I sit down?" 

"No!"

Mr. Brown

we should come up with a tasty drink that hurts really badly but tastes soooo good. Can call it a “Bullet Ant” (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paraponera - Mr. Silver)

3:24 PM Mr. Blue

hurts bad but tastes good?

how about a sugary margarita that, when you're finished, there's a message at the bottom of your glass that says the bartender had sex with your wife?

3:25 PM Mr. Brown

“Bullet Ant: For the Masochist in You!”

3:25 PM Mr. Silver

Perhaps formic acid as a mixer?

3:26 PM Mr. Blue

doesn't antifreeze taste sweet? how about that

3:34 PM Mr. Silver

"So good you go blind."

(Some background: As a birthday present for Mr. Gray, I offered to run a Dungeons & Dragons game, in the 3.5 edition, of an Arabian setting (Al Qadim) which was never officially translated from 2^nd edition, and I'm not thoroughly versed in 3.5...there's a possibility I've bitten off more than I can chew. Regardless, some good “bits” have come from chatting about it and I decided to put some in here – Mr. Silver)

Mr. Gray

But yeah Mr. Silver, I'd just do what i said for (game rules)

11:02 AM Mr. Silver

nod

11:03 AM Mr. Gray

Anything like that comes up, feel free to ask so we're consistent

11:04 AM Mr. Silver

“Consistency is the leveled hobgoblin warrior of little minds” - R.W. Emerson

11:04 AM Mr. Gray

LMAO

That comment is exactly why I laugh when someone says "Its just a goblin!"

Yeah...a level 14 goblin, and with more spells than you have dipsh*t LOL

11:05 AM Mr. Silver

lol

yes

Mr. Gray

I hope Scott breaks his sword......good luck on finding a Greatsword in Al-Qadim LOL

I warned him. That’s why I only take weapon TYPES, not anything specific

or at least take a weapon you can find anywhere. Though i suppose there might be something close enough

Great Scimitar maybe

Mr. Silver

Great Scimitar doesn't work like Greatsword at all, by the way

1:02 PM Mr. Gray

I didn’t think it did

weighted differently

1:02 PM Mr. Silver

nod

Mass toward front

single edge

full blade

and curve

1:03 PM Mr. Gray

Could always try to find someone to try "Craft exotic foreign weapon" like the Greatsword...but wouldn't be cheap....and there's a chance the person may not make it right if they've never made one before heh

1:05 PM Mr. Silver

"WTF?  This isn't the design I gave you!" 

"It is better, honorable foreigner.  See the beautiful curves and the pointed tip?"

"You IDIOT!" 

1:06 PM Mr. Gray

LMAO

I'd howl

Mr. Silver

think I'll have to stay sharp Friday...sigh...martini free...bummer

1:42 PM Mr. Gray

bah...ya can have one or two I'm sure

help the nerves

1:43 PM Mr. Silver

"Potion of Glibness" with 2 olives, please.

(next day) "Well...by Martini #4 you'd given us each a genie lamp."

1:45 PM Mr. Gray

LMAO

I wouldn’t take it

no friggin way LOL

Wish? no thanks

Or waste it on something like "I wish for the baddest pirate's best haul to be placed into my hold"

Oh...."and leave this note saying 'thanks!'. Yes, I signed it"

LOL

1:48 PM Mr. Silver

"The baddest pirate's best haul would appear to be a hold full of trophy body parts."

1:49 PM Mr. Gray

LMAO

"guess I should have reworded that.....see why I said no wishes!!"

"I want the BEST pirate's best haul instead please.....last wish"

“Nothing happens.”

"Hey! Nothing changed?!?"
"Well, you are the best."
"Hmm...can't even be mad with you over that statement, damn you"

Day 19 - Ohhhh..."Raptor", Fancy things, Troll 2, and SEP UFOs

Mr. Brown

Well the end of the world is in October now

lol

8:02 AM Mr. Blue

that was the original prediction

Rapture May 21st, end of the world October

8:03 AM Mr. Brown

Yeah well he is using the October for the Rapture, then the end, now

saying he was off by months

lol

8:03 AM Mr. Blue

i wish he was breaking some kind of law

8:03 AM Mr. Brown

He was also sorry for messing it up

lol

9:06 AM Mr. Silver

Turns out the translation was off by a phoneme and the world will be filled with 144000 raptors

9:10 AM Mr. Blue

raptors are tiny little things IRL, we can defeat them easily

9:18 AM Mr. Silver

well...it was a classification.  there were tiny and large ones

9:25 AM Mr. Blue

mostly tiny

9:26 AM Mr. Silver

Not much of an apocalypse if they were the tiny ones. 

Unless it was the 2 million count bonus Raptor Rapture

9:27 AM Mr. Blue

i think 6 billion people could wipe out 2 million tiny raptors pretty easily

how many buffalo were there?

9:27 AM Mr. Silver

Well yes, but that's why the real end of the world is 6 months later

The Raptor is just the opening act

8:18 AM Mr. Brown

http://www.stuff.co.nz/oddstuff/5048704/Toy-tiger-causes-UK-police-alert

That story is funny

8:48 AM Mr. Silver

(co-worker) "Windows Live Mail is just a fancy name for the new version of Outlook Express."

Really?  “Fancy”?

"Well, 'Bubbly' is just a fancy name for 1964 Moet & Chandon Dom Perignon"

9:03 AM Mr. Silver

"It's fancy...like ketchup."

10:14 AM Mr. Blue

the father from Troll 2 sent ME a friend request on Facebook.. jealous?

10:22 AM Mr. Blue

the director of Troll 2 considers it a "masterpiece" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_2)

and said he'd like to make a sequel, and a fan poll chose the title "Troll II: Part II"

10:24 AM Mr. Silver

good title

10:34 AM Mr. Brown

Never saw Troll

nor Troll 2

(...some time later...)

10:37 AM Mr. Brown

Ok i just read about that movie

That’s funny

10:38 AM Mr. Blue

no trolls in Troll 2

10:38 AM Mr. Brown

Yeah

lol

10:38 AM Mr. Blue

just like The Room, it was written by a guy that doesn't speak English very well, but required his actors to read the script verbatim

never turns out good

10:40 AM Mr. Brown

LOL

3:06 PM Mr. Brown

I have seen UFOs

but I’m going off the actual description of a UFO

Not a space ship

i saw something flying that i could not make sense of

so it was unidentified

3:08 PM Mr. Blue

well, everyone has seen a UFO

a flying object we cannot identify... who hasn't seen something like that?

3:08 PM Mr. Silver

blind people

3:08 PM Mr. Brown

Yes if you go off the real description of what UFO is

A lot of people think “aliens” when you say UFO

3:09 PM Mr. Blue

yeah

but have i seen anything that looked other worldly? no

i once saw a beer-can shaped object that i assumed was in fact a hot-air balloon shaped like a beer can for advertising or whatever

3:10 PM Mr. Brown

i saw a orange ball that flew very fast in several directions, like it was flying

not just a shooting star

3:15 PM Mr. Brown

it was zigzag motion and disappeared very fast

so not sure what that was

my dad saw it tood

too

3:15 PM Mr. Silver

toooooood

3:16 PM Mr. Blue

drop the 'tood

3:16 PM Mr. Silver

There's an "airplane" in State College PA I used to watch

red light, blue light, white lights...standard jet configuration

except it just hangs there

An SEP (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Somebody_Else%27s_Problem “in fiction” entry.)

Once i noticed it, I saw it all the time.  I timed it stationary for 20 minutes once

3:18 PM Mr. Brown

RC helicopter?

3:18 PM Mr. Silver

no...silent, immobile, and of obvious altitude based on all the points of observation I had over several encounters/years.

It's meant to look like airplane lights

3:25 PM Mr. Blue

sometimes airplanes can look stationary but they aren't

IE - if they're flying away from you

3:26 PM Mr. Silver

Which is why i set up observation, with a watch

3:27 PM Mr. Blue

the fact that you saw it several times would lead me to believe it was a common flight path from a nearby airport

3:27 PM Mr. Silver

hehe

An SEP built for someone just like you, Mr. Blue

3:36 PM Mr. Silver

I thought the same way you did. 

So I tested

“It” failed

3:37 PM Mr. Blue

what failed?

3:37 PM Mr. Silver

The “airplane” disguise. Once you see the SEP, you see through the SEP.

3:38 PM Mr. Silver

What better disguise in the modern age to watch a target...night, high up...standardized aircraft light configuration and flashing? You look up, spot it, say 'plane" and move on

3:38 PM Mr. Blue

or rather.. no lights at all

I’d choose that over disguising yourself as a jet but remaining still

3:39 PM Mr. Silver

Well yes...I'd say the same every time

The only reason i can think of to not simply be invisible is to act as some sort of lure.

Assuming intelligence, perhaps the other end of my "test" was:

(alien crewman) "Got one sir...there, between the apartment building and the Burger King."

(alien captain) "How long has he been watching?" 

(alien crewman) "Good 2 or 3 minutes, and checking his watch."

(alien captain) "Excellent...put the scanners on him."

3:43 PM Mr. Blue

heheh

doesn't make much sense

3:44 PM Mr. Silver

No, but that'd be the nature of UFO reports.

But in the end...yes, I've seen a UFO.  Same style each time, same area, numerous times, several points of observation, with different witnesses, and tested the phenomenon.

But it's still "Unidentified" despite that.