Saturday, January 6, 2018

453 - "Danger Will Robinson! Danger Of Inbreeding Will Robinson!", Lightning Rod & Reel, and The Young Torcs

[11:15 AM]
So, as an example of the stupid crap that keeps me from having a decent night's sleep...
Long about 4am, "Lost in Space" comes into my head.
Do I take advantage of this to have a nice campy space adventure dream? 
Nooooo
No, what happened instead was my anthropologist education kicked in and started working on the problem of the most viable breeding program to minimize inbreeding, most fully expand on available genetic bloodlines, and achieve a sustainable population if they ever got to a planet that didn't want to kill them.
This obsessive garbage churned until I got out of bed around 5:50
After all...as long as humans were trying to colonize a place anyway, you've gotta work with what you have, and that was very little.
Yes...part of my barely conscious mind was fixated on saving the human race with a fictional group of explorers. 
I told it to shut up and do something else many times. 
Ah well
[1:08 PM] Mr. Brown:
I would be strange - a family getting marooned somewhere and having to try to populate
Most would probably just die off
[2:26 PM]
Yup. Well...I mean they wouldn't have a lot of wiggle room for mistakes...
Though the Robinsons were all selected as exceptional specimens, as was Don...
And Dr. Smith is...well...he got an advanced degree and a resume that put him as chief medic on a stave-off-the-apocalypse space project. 
So as far as physical and mental fitness goes, they were all in the 99.9th+ percentile of Earthlings.
[2:34 PM] Mr. Brown:
I wonder how far DNA would degrade if mutations show up. Like how many generations.
[2:36 PM]
Yup...how long til the recessives and mutations start to cause trouble.
Even if Earth science had our genetic knowledge at the show timeline, I don't know that they had anything on the ship to treat such issues.
[2:37 PM] Mr. Brown:
Populations of humans were not very large a long time ago
They survived smaller pools
[2:38 PM]
It was bigger than 5 adults and 2 kids
[2:38 PM] Mr. Brown:
Yes
But how different is all our DNA? That's where it seems amazing.
[2:41 PM]
?
See...this is what happens...
[2:42 PM] Mr. Brown:
I mean I have a recessive gene
[2:44 PM]
We all do.  But yes.  Something health-affecting? That'd hit pretty fast in the generations if you were in the Robins-uman Race group.
[2:44 PM] Mr. Brown:
They would have to have genetic tools to modify things, including themselves.
Start splicing with the alien humanoids they keep meeting.
lol
[2:46 PM]
[2:53 PM] Mr. Brown:
In the movie didn't the Dr. turn into a spider guy?
[2:53 PM]
I was so powerless to stop the obsessive thinking that I got to the stupid and pointless point of starting to label X and Y strains in my head.
"OK...so Professor Robinson is the dad and that's a problem, but recall only Penny has his hair color and it's usually dominant, so if we call him A-X A-Y...then Penny probably picked up his A-X but Maureen's b-X.  So Judy would be B-X/A-X...so with care, A-Y could..."
(tortured mind - "Shut UP!  SHUT UP!")
[2:54 PM] Mr. Brown:
Haha
Have all the women mate with the non family members.
LOL
[2:56 PM]
Yes
Rotation of that HAS to be phase 1
[2:56 PM] Mr. Brown:
And, of course, the mother and father can have more till she shouldn't.
[2:57 PM]
No! She should never have more with Mr Robinson
There's already too many in that line.
They'd have to try for a boy and ideally two girls, each, with Don and Smith
All of the women.... (shudder)
At least that
Honestly, they should go as long as they can in Phase 1.
Will would be a danger (snerk) until he could be matched with Penny's daughters at the earliest.
[3:05 PM] Mr. Brown:
If they have the tech, though, nobody has to do it the old fashioned way
They can just splice everything together they need, getting rid of anything bad.
That's the best scenario
[3:07 PM]
Well...they don't have it.
A big rack of human incubators would be nice, but they had agriculture stuff and were a little scout ship.
[3:18 PM] Mr. Brown:
You're thinking of the no other options way
The women would have to be the incubators
[3:20 PM]
Yup
The tech is limited to what was on the TV show in the 60s
[3:22 PM] Mr. Brown:
So they might be able to adjust the DNA then IVF into the women
Considering they are adjusting the vegetation
[3:24 PM]
They weren't though. They were planting earth veggies.
[3:27 PM] Mr. Brown:
So they are advanced enough to go into space that far, get lost, and all they can do is plant what they brought? HAHAHAHAHAH!
Start Trek is more advanced.
[3:30 PM]
Well, yes, in most ways. It's a totally different technology set. Though the Robot's AI is better than Star Trek's capabilities until Data came along.  Some fans think it is secretly alien tech. Too bad Earth lost it in space.   
Actually, if you haven't, watch the first few episodes of Lost in Space. Before it got campy it was excellent sci-fi and really dark.
[3:33 PM] Mr. Brown:
I've seen episodes here and there when I was younger, but don't know a lot about it
[3:45 PM]
Look it up.  I'd love to see it tried again with the original story line



[11:55 AM] Mr. Brown:
Not sure if a failure or success
[11:56 AM] Mr. Blue:
I love to fish in drainage ditches
[11:57 AM] Mr. Brown:
About as clean as the Ganges river in India
[11:57 AM] Mr. Blue:
LOL
[12:19 PM]
So is that fuzz the nimbus of electricity around the fisherman's body?
[12:19 PM] Mr. Blue:
It's like the fast vibration when a cartoon character gets electrocuted.
[12:20 PM]
"Fire and rescue service officers stand outside death zone around body of Mr. Siada, after several incidents dragging it out of a drainage ditch, which was eventually accomplished with a long gaff."
[12:20 PM] Mr. Blue:
Complete with sizzle lines coming off his head
[12:21 PM]
Heh



[12:03 PM] Mr. Blue:
I got a neat book
Local surnames, circa 1895
[12:09 PM]
Yes?
What was popular?
[12:17 PM] Mr. Blue:
About 1/3rd German and 2/3rds English
Virtually nothing that can't be traced to German-speaking places or English-speaking places
The only thing close to “foreign” I found was a bunch of people named "Turk", but that apparently has Scottish/Gaelic origins
[12:45 PM]
Woot!
Me, I favor "torc". But I lost it at "[seriously?]"
As far as the turkey's "legendary stupidity", only the domesticated ones have rocks in their heads.
[12:49 PM] Mr. Blue:
Turkish farmers arrived in Ireland about 6,000 years ago, bringing agriculture with them
There was no Turkey 6000 years ago.
[12:50 PM]
Dang...bigger subject than expected.
Well...the landmass was there
[12:50 PM] Mr. Blue:
Scottish: reduced Anglicized form of Gaelic Mac Tuirc, a patronymic from the byname Torc 'boar'.
[12:58 PM]
So it's "torc" and torc is "boar", and it was applied to the Irish because dim Americans couldn't tell that it's Scottish
[12:58 PM] Mr. Blue:
The name derives from a boar's foul demeanor and body hair - similar to a Turk.”
[12:59 PM]
LOL @Mr. Blue
(Ellis Island clerk) "And your surname, sir?"
(Hulking Highlander) "Teeoooorrrrk, lad!"
"Irish, eh?" 
"Yerr aff!"
"What does it mean?"
"Ken uet means lieett meh inna yer coontreh nayw eurr ull spleht yoor faht 'ead n feed yeh t' me peggs!"
"Ah. Welcome to America, Mr. Turk."
[1:07 PM] Mr. Blue:
Heheh

Sunday, December 31, 2017

452 - A Wall Built On Water, Escape From Snake's Ego, "And The Chuck Tingle Award For Best Rule 34 Literature Goes Inside The Butt Of...", and All North Korean Weapons Are Super

[11:51 AM] Mr. Blue:
A tariff on Mexico is extremely bad for businesses here.
I'm fine with a wall, but take it out of aid we give to Mexico, which is like a billion per year.
[11:52 AM]
Yeah...there's a problem with that wall...
They kind of forgot about this little river 
We won't ever cede it to Mexico, and they're never giving it to us.
Some dip was suggesting we'll just have to annex part of Mexico.
Would have to.
[11:55 AM] Mr. Blue:
I think most of the areas already with a wall just have the wall on our side of the river.
[11:57 AM]
Its all pointless anyway.  The "bad guys" he claims he wants to keep out with it are just digging tunnels or flying over in planes or drones anyway.
[12:01 PM] Mr. Brown:
I think he really just wants to stop the people just trying to get to America by hopping the current fence but he says publicly “the bad guys” to make it seem better.
All the rednecks spoke up saying they don't want people here illegally and he thinks a wall can stop it.
[12:02 PM]
Hard to know what he “thinks”
I assume he thinks that this is a 21st century Mexican "bad guy" 
[12:05 PM] Mr. Brown:
Or maybe he thinks a big wall means less money to watch the border, even though you have to spend a lot to make it
[12:07 PM]
Buying it, maintaining it, guarding it. The thing would cost quite a bit o' $
Wasn't it the army corps of engineers who said they could build one for billions less than projected recently?  Where'd I see that.  (looks)
[12:10 PM] Mr. Blue:
The whole thing doesn't need walled. There are mountains and desert that is virtually impassable
There are national parks that should remain pristine.
But already like 15% of it is walled. Do people think those current fences should be replaced?
Trump's proposal is too simplistic.
It should've been "We'll build a wall where we can, and use drones and tech where we can't. And monitor visa overstayers. And target employers that hire illegals."
[12:16 PM] Mr. Brown:
How about an electric fence that goes 40 ft into the ground so the only way past is flying
LOL
[12:17 PM]
(President of Mexico) "What's with the little flags?"
[12:17 PM] Mr. Brown:
Haha
[12:17 PM]
(Trump) "Invisible fencing...we'll need every Mexican to put on one of these collars."
[12:17 PM] Mr. Blue:
LOL
Nah, they'll just sprint through it and then they'll be stuck on our side
[12:25 PM]
Hehe
"I tried to go back, senor."
(Trainee on the deportation bus, veteran driving)  "So how close are we to the border?"  "Just a sec..." (yelps and shrieks in a cascade from the front of the bus to the back)  "Welcome back to Mexico, folks!" 



[1:36 PM] Mr. Blue:
Escape From LA”'s biggest issues are the effects
Really terrible and cheap
Fix those and release it to DVD... It's not as good as Escape From NY still, but it's good
[1:36 PM]
I only saw it once...I can't recall anything.
OK, I recall surfing next to a convertible with Buscemi(sp) in it, and LA being where to put the pervs, or whatever. That's the whole movie for me.
[1:38 PM] Mr. Brown:
I always recall the fight in NY, in a boxing ring
[1:38 PM] Mr. Blue:
In Escape From LA it was Snake having to shoot hoops. LOL
[1:38 PM] Mr. Brown:
Yep
Showing Snake can do anything to stay alive
[1:39 PM] Mr. Blue:
Read the first 2 entries and tell me Kurt Russell didn't write the IMDB trivia section for Escape From LA
[1:40 PM]
Yup...Kurt wrote 'em
[1:41 PM] Mr. Blue:
Trivia #3:  Kurt Russell is very handsome and cool as Snake Plissken
[1:43 PM]
Trivia #4: They say Kurt is one bad Muthe - Shut yo mouth! - I'm just postin' trivia about Kurt!"
Trivia #5: We can dig it!
Trivia #6: Damn right.  Kurt Russell is a complicated man.  No one understood him but Goldie Hawn.
[1:44 PM] Mr. Brown:
# 7 Kurt had his eye surgically removed and put on ice til done filming to be as authentic as possible.
[1:48 PM] Mr. Blue:
#8: To this day the Snake Plissken outfit still fits Russell, and he likes to wear it around the house and talk in Plissken's accent to his family, who enjoy it and don't find it annoying at all.
[1:49 PM] Mr. Brown:
#9 To this day, Kurt still can't shoot that hand cannon accurately
#10 Due to difficulties in respecting the correct labialized sounds, the Italian version changed the nickname from "Snake" to "Handsome" Plissken.
[1:58 PM] Mr. Blue:
#11 "In the soviet block countries it was released as a documentary."




[8:04 AM]
And this rather hilarious...mockery of an intellectual society https://www.wired.com/2017/04/hugo-nominations-who-is-stix-hiscock/
Sort of farce I did in high school...but "dirty"
These sorts of titles show up on theworstthingsforsale.com fairly often.
[8:27 AM] Mr. Blue:
"Professor T-Rex Teaches Me Gayness"
[8:27 AM]
Hehe
I have difficulty imagining that stuff so farcical is very erotic
Unless you're really into Rule 34
[8:35 AM] Mr. Blue:
Yeah
[8:41 AM]
(200 years from now - antique book shop) "Gasp!  A first edition of 'Busted in the Butt by My Own Butt'?  And it's signed!  How much?"
(Real title from the Worst site, if I'm recalling correctly)
Ah...it was "pounded"
I was never good at remembering titles of classic literature
[8:43 AM] Mr. Blue:
His wiki says he's schizophrenic and his son edits his writing for him to become readable books
[8:43 AM]
Nice
Link?
[8:45 AM] Mr. Blue:
In 2016, a person presented as Tingle's son Jon – and identified as such by a statement from Tingle's Twitter account – stated in a Reddit AMA session that Tingle "is an autistic savant, but also suffers from schizophrenia."[9] Jon stated that he edits his father's work for publication, and provides day-to-day care for him.
[8:47 AM]
Great titles.
Gonna have to send it home because I started laughing out loud.
Fortunately I was off the phone
[8:51 AM] Mr. Blue:
I don't understand why this Rabid Puppies group nominated this Tingle guy other than just to make fun of the other awards
[8:53 AM]
It sounded like some sort of protest of under-representation in the article I started with.
I couldn't really tell if someone originally meant it, or it was always them trolling.
[9:30 AM] Mr. Blue:
Turned Gay by the Socioeconomic Implications of Britain Leaving the European Union”
[9:32 AM]
I'm guessing that's a big seller in England
[10:19 AM] Mr. Brown:
So we have NK and ASSAD to deal with now
[10:35 AM]
Hmm
"NK'd in the Assad by a KN-15 Medium-Range Ballistic Missile"
Not quite a quality Chuck Tingle title, but...butt...



[10:58 AM] Mr. Brown:
So apparently Russia thinks aircraft carriers are still good, so they are building the biggest
[11:14 AM]
Aircraft carriers are great if you are going after people that can't stop 'em
Like NK
Read a piece on that threat from NK today. 
[11:15 AM] Mr. Brown:
Actually was more of a WTF
[11:15 AM]
Basically, even if they somehow could find it and launch a nuke at a US carrier and it didn't fail, it'd probably take long enough to get to the target that the ship would be gone.
Any lesser effort...if it ever got through the defenses (chance = nil) couldn't do enough damage to do more than stop deck activities for a while.
[11:31 AM] Mr. Blue:
NK is a joke
[11:32 AM]
(raps) "Get up! Get get - get down!  North Ko-rea is a joke in your town!"
("North Korea's a joke!")
Hadn't thought of that song in a while...
[11:32 AM] Mr. Blue:
They'll just bomb SK, they can't do anything else
They don't care about the bad PR of all their missiles falling into the ocean because their own citizens never find out
[11:38 AM]
I'm sure their missiles are 100% successful and productive...even among the engineers that watch them fail.
"It perfectly blew up on the launch pad according to our specifications."
[11:39 AM] Mr. Brown:
Well since they don't let anybody in, nobody is helping them make missiles
[11:40 AM] Mr. Blue:
"It was a precision failure"
[11:41 AM] Mr. Brown:
I still don't think the leader of the country is actually leading the country
All the dumb stuff he is always doing
He is just a face
[11:45 AM] Mr. Blue:
I doubt it...
[11:52 AM]
Oh! NK. Heheh
I actually thought Mr. Brown had changed the subject to Trump.  :-D