Saturday, January 6, 2018

453 - "Danger Will Robinson! Danger Of Inbreeding Will Robinson!", Lightning Rod & Reel, and The Young Torcs

[11:15 AM]
So, as an example of the stupid crap that keeps me from having a decent night's sleep...
Long about 4am, "Lost in Space" comes into my head.
Do I take advantage of this to have a nice campy space adventure dream? 
Nooooo
No, what happened instead was my anthropologist education kicked in and started working on the problem of the most viable breeding program to minimize inbreeding, most fully expand on available genetic bloodlines, and achieve a sustainable population if they ever got to a planet that didn't want to kill them.
This obsessive garbage churned until I got out of bed around 5:50
After all...as long as humans were trying to colonize a place anyway, you've gotta work with what you have, and that was very little.
Yes...part of my barely conscious mind was fixated on saving the human race with a fictional group of explorers. 
I told it to shut up and do something else many times. 
Ah well
[1:08 PM] Mr. Brown:
I would be strange - a family getting marooned somewhere and having to try to populate
Most would probably just die off
[2:26 PM]
Yup. Well...I mean they wouldn't have a lot of wiggle room for mistakes...
Though the Robinsons were all selected as exceptional specimens, as was Don...
And Dr. Smith is...well...he got an advanced degree and a resume that put him as chief medic on a stave-off-the-apocalypse space project. 
So as far as physical and mental fitness goes, they were all in the 99.9th+ percentile of Earthlings.
[2:34 PM] Mr. Brown:
I wonder how far DNA would degrade if mutations show up. Like how many generations.
[2:36 PM]
Yup...how long til the recessives and mutations start to cause trouble.
Even if Earth science had our genetic knowledge at the show timeline, I don't know that they had anything on the ship to treat such issues.
[2:37 PM] Mr. Brown:
Populations of humans were not very large a long time ago
They survived smaller pools
[2:38 PM]
It was bigger than 5 adults and 2 kids
[2:38 PM] Mr. Brown:
Yes
But how different is all our DNA? That's where it seems amazing.
[2:41 PM]
?
See...this is what happens...
[2:42 PM] Mr. Brown:
I mean I have a recessive gene
[2:44 PM]
We all do.  But yes.  Something health-affecting? That'd hit pretty fast in the generations if you were in the Robins-uman Race group.
[2:44 PM] Mr. Brown:
They would have to have genetic tools to modify things, including themselves.
Start splicing with the alien humanoids they keep meeting.
lol
[2:46 PM]
[2:53 PM] Mr. Brown:
In the movie didn't the Dr. turn into a spider guy?
[2:53 PM]
I was so powerless to stop the obsessive thinking that I got to the stupid and pointless point of starting to label X and Y strains in my head.
"OK...so Professor Robinson is the dad and that's a problem, but recall only Penny has his hair color and it's usually dominant, so if we call him A-X A-Y...then Penny probably picked up his A-X but Maureen's b-X.  So Judy would be B-X/A-X...so with care, A-Y could..."
(tortured mind - "Shut UP!  SHUT UP!")
[2:54 PM] Mr. Brown:
Haha
Have all the women mate with the non family members.
LOL
[2:56 PM]
Yes
Rotation of that HAS to be phase 1
[2:56 PM] Mr. Brown:
And, of course, the mother and father can have more till she shouldn't.
[2:57 PM]
No! She should never have more with Mr Robinson
There's already too many in that line.
They'd have to try for a boy and ideally two girls, each, with Don and Smith
All of the women.... (shudder)
At least that
Honestly, they should go as long as they can in Phase 1.
Will would be a danger (snerk) until he could be matched with Penny's daughters at the earliest.
[3:05 PM] Mr. Brown:
If they have the tech, though, nobody has to do it the old fashioned way
They can just splice everything together they need, getting rid of anything bad.
That's the best scenario
[3:07 PM]
Well...they don't have it.
A big rack of human incubators would be nice, but they had agriculture stuff and were a little scout ship.
[3:18 PM] Mr. Brown:
You're thinking of the no other options way
The women would have to be the incubators
[3:20 PM]
Yup
The tech is limited to what was on the TV show in the 60s
[3:22 PM] Mr. Brown:
So they might be able to adjust the DNA then IVF into the women
Considering they are adjusting the vegetation
[3:24 PM]
They weren't though. They were planting earth veggies.
[3:27 PM] Mr. Brown:
So they are advanced enough to go into space that far, get lost, and all they can do is plant what they brought? HAHAHAHAHAH!
Start Trek is more advanced.
[3:30 PM]
Well, yes, in most ways. It's a totally different technology set. Though the Robot's AI is better than Star Trek's capabilities until Data came along.  Some fans think it is secretly alien tech. Too bad Earth lost it in space.   
Actually, if you haven't, watch the first few episodes of Lost in Space. Before it got campy it was excellent sci-fi and really dark.
[3:33 PM] Mr. Brown:
I've seen episodes here and there when I was younger, but don't know a lot about it
[3:45 PM]
Look it up.  I'd love to see it tried again with the original story line



[11:55 AM] Mr. Brown:
Not sure if a failure or success
[11:56 AM] Mr. Blue:
I love to fish in drainage ditches
[11:57 AM] Mr. Brown:
About as clean as the Ganges river in India
[11:57 AM] Mr. Blue:
LOL
[12:19 PM]
So is that fuzz the nimbus of electricity around the fisherman's body?
[12:19 PM] Mr. Blue:
It's like the fast vibration when a cartoon character gets electrocuted.
[12:20 PM]
"Fire and rescue service officers stand outside death zone around body of Mr. Siada, after several incidents dragging it out of a drainage ditch, which was eventually accomplished with a long gaff."
[12:20 PM] Mr. Blue:
Complete with sizzle lines coming off his head
[12:21 PM]
Heh



[12:03 PM] Mr. Blue:
I got a neat book
Local surnames, circa 1895
[12:09 PM]
Yes?
What was popular?
[12:17 PM] Mr. Blue:
About 1/3rd German and 2/3rds English
Virtually nothing that can't be traced to German-speaking places or English-speaking places
The only thing close to “foreign” I found was a bunch of people named "Turk", but that apparently has Scottish/Gaelic origins
[12:45 PM]
Woot!
Me, I favor "torc". But I lost it at "[seriously?]"
As far as the turkey's "legendary stupidity", only the domesticated ones have rocks in their heads.
[12:49 PM] Mr. Blue:
Turkish farmers arrived in Ireland about 6,000 years ago, bringing agriculture with them
There was no Turkey 6000 years ago.
[12:50 PM]
Dang...bigger subject than expected.
Well...the landmass was there
[12:50 PM] Mr. Blue:
Scottish: reduced Anglicized form of Gaelic Mac Tuirc, a patronymic from the byname Torc 'boar'.
[12:58 PM]
So it's "torc" and torc is "boar", and it was applied to the Irish because dim Americans couldn't tell that it's Scottish
[12:58 PM] Mr. Blue:
“The name derives from a boar's foul demeanor and body hair - similar to a Turk.”
[12:59 PM]
LOL @Mr. Blue
(Ellis Island clerk) "And your surname, sir?"
(Hulking Highlander) "Teeoooorrrrk, lad!"
"Irish, eh?" 
"Yerr aff!"
"What does it mean?"
"Ken uet means lieett meh inna yer coontreh nayw eurr ull spleht yoor faht 'ead n feed yeh t' me peggs!"
"Ah. Welcome to America, Mr. Turk."
[1:07 PM] Mr. Blue:
Heheh
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