Saturday, March 27, 2021

602 - The Times They Are Repeatin', Kennedy-Like, Thoughts On The Goon Docks & Willy's Ship

[2:21 PM]   Mr. Brown:   
So on time travel was thinking - would you age normally while your traveling through time?

[2:41 PM]   
Well...yes
There are a variety of theoretical techniques, but...I mean...you're still moving forward a bit.
You could move to your own future and kill your older self and take over
Being a multi-verse kind of guy, you probably wouldn't know you were coming.
If you go for more rigid streaming...you would.   And the repercussions would be awful.
Because if you beat your younger self...you go too.
and if you always lose, you are in a time loop and trapped for eternity...knowing...
You could attempt to make a deal
But as soon as you agree you'd start a resonance and more, and you'd start multiplying occurrences of yourself at...to put it cutely..."the speed of light".
Basically you'd destroy local temporal space with an infinite number of yourself.
Which could be a fun "Big Bang" event I suppose.   
Which might be related to Doc Brown's "they can't see each other or the results would be catastrophic...eh...maybe it would just destroy the local universe." (or whatever he said)
[3:07 PM]   Mr. Brown:   
Once they know of each other

[3:15 PM]   Mr. Blue:   
You'd think if time travel (in reverse) were possible we'd know about it by now.
Or maybe we do
Maybe wacky historical stuff was just previous human beings trying to interpret time travel
Maybe Jesus was a time traveler

[3:40 PM]  
Remarkably...this entire section from Hitchhiker's Guide is online -

https://sites.google.com/site/h2g2theguide/Index/t/956236

Enjoy
Sums up some time damage issues rather nicely
[3:46 PM]   Mr. Brown:   
Small child falls, scrapes knee
Jesus walks up
Pulls out a tub of ointment
Puts it on and puts a TMNT bandaid on the child
MIRACLE

[3:54 PM]   
"By the power of Bactine..."



[1:04 PM]   Mr. Blue:   

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_F._Kennedy#/media/File:John_F_Kennedy_Official_Portrait.jpg

(Artist) "I'm not too good with faces so I decided to portray him looking down, as you see here."
That's his official presidential portrait, posthumously painted
"Backgrounds are tricky.."

[1:06 PM]   
"The press called this one The Shoe-Gaze Kennedy.   I like how the hair came out."
[1:06 PM]   Mr. Blue:   
heh

[1:06 PM]   
"Kennedy had medium to dark brown hair..."
"Yeah!”
"And a wave and a part on the side."
[1:08 PM]   Mr. Blue:   
They gave him bog body hair color

[1:09 PM]   
“Somebody said he was Irish, so I went for red and curly"



[9:56 AM]   
So Goonies
Put a post up yesterday
The conversation "Was that little pile of gems actually enough to save the Goondocks?" we had
Afterwards I went to look and someone did a video on topic:
"Buying out ... if as stated ... 50 +1 houses.   Currently valued in the range of $X to $Y.   Adjusted back to the 1980s..."
"The club would probably have to pay $Z."
(Tangent for a “clarity cut color carat” instructional)
"So the answer...at the size they are and if they were what they looked like (actual precious gems) and if the government was nice about treasure trove laws and the courts would suspend the deal, and there was no historical claims to get through by the governments who probably have records of loss..."
"Yeah, it was probably enough cash value.   But that's a lot of ifs."
Real life?  Nope.
Hollywood feel-good?  Lots of millions of dollars.
[10:08 AM]   Mr. Brown:   
Lets just say ripping up the paper was still the right thing to do
We just did not get to see the real conclusion of them going through all that
lol
So the ending is still not completely wrong
They got their Ray of Hope

[10:11 AM]   
(two months later...Walshes moving into gated community... Dad grinning.   Mikey) "But dad!   It's not the Goon Docks!  It's not HOME!"
"It's good enough for me."
(queue Cyndi Lauper song)
[10:13 AM]   Mr. Brown:   
Yep
lol
“We tried son”

[10:15 AM]   
"You see son, most of the 51 households not only got paid for their property, but now we're totally loaded."
[10:15 AM]   Mr. Blue:   
I woulda just made a deal with the Fratellis
"Plenty of rich stuff for all of us."

[10:15 AM]   Mr. Brown:   
They don't make deals
I mean look at Sloth

[10:17 AM]   Mr. Blue:   
In reality the Goon Dock neighborhood wouldn't have been at risk of developers
It was upper middle class at worst and not practical land for a golf course
They don't demolish actual neighborhoods to build golf courses.

[10:18 AM]   Mr. Brown:   
Buy it and rent out the whole community
lol
Seaside property
Son of a gun
A client just said “good enough for me” on this call
HEHEH

[10:20 AM]   Mr. Blue:   
heh

[10:25 AM]   
Were they actually building a golf course?   
[10:25 AM]   Mr. Blue:   
i think so.. didn't they say they wanted their house to be the "sand trap" or something

[10:25 AM]   
I know the kids said they HOPED they build a gold course and their house became a sand trap that they'd never get their balls out of
[10:26 AM]   Mr. Blue:   
ahh... sounds right
Facing  foreclosure  of their homes in the Goon Docks area of  Astoria, Oregon, to an expanding  country club.
I guess it could've been anything country-club related

[10:26 AM]   
I can't think of anything
But I don't hang at country clubs
Waste of space, really
[10:27 AM]   Mr. Blue:   
Yes
Golf courses are too, but i guess it's better than a strip mall
The other scenes at the country club showed typical country club stuff i think... gym/spa type stuff... tennis / racquet courts maybe?

[10:28 AM]   
From the few I've been to, it seems to be a fine-dining set of rooms, couple lounges, bar or two, a pool, tennis and golf.
The Goon Docks were needed and suitable for none of it
[10:28 AM]   Mr. Blue:   
I guess in a movie world they could've been tearing down the Goon Docks just for extra parking or to improve the views from the country club

[10:28 AM]   
Unless they were going to build housing
[10:28 AM]   Mr. Blue:   
But in reality, country clubs probably don't "expand" in the first place
When i picture country clubs they're usually already out in the open with lots of its own undeveloped land if expansion is needed

[10:30 AM]   
"It's less a country club so much as an In Town club"
"Since...well...I mean we're right next to the commercial and cultural areas."
[10:32 AM]   Mr. Blue:   
Also... Their dad was the museum curator who could hire a foreign maid... They'd be very likely to be country club members or at least friends with its members

[10:32 AM]   
They just got her for cleaning and packing
couple days work
Mom had a broken arm
[10:33 AM]   Mr. Blue:   
True
Still, they were probably reasonably well connected for a small town
Maybe that's why they were the last house left

[10:34 AM]   
No
They were #1
"We have 50 more houses to get to AFTER yours"
[10:34 AM]   Mr. Blue:   
ahh

[10:35 AM]   
If Walsh caved it was politically (or whatever) over
Possibly/Probably was trying and failing to establish Historical significance and was out of time.  Can't bulldoze a historical district
Obviously had no money "It'll never happen. My dad'll figure it out."
Figure what out?   He curated a (looks up “a ha!”) history museum which was about The History of Astoria
Which is funny because Astoria was founded in 1811 and the map is early 15th century
[10:42 AM]   Mr. Brown:   
Well they could have been there ahead of that specific town

[10:42 AM]   
Lewis and Clarke got there 1st in 1805
Whole thing would have made a hell of a lot more sense in New England
[10:43 AM]   Mr. Blue:   
Yeah were there pirates in the Pacific?

[10:43 AM]   
In the world of pirates, you go where the money is
[10:44 AM]   Mr. Brown:   
Where transport ships go

[10:44 AM]   
The money is NOT in the Pacific in 1632
That being said, Willy was running away from Charles I and people had sailed to there.
[10:44 AM]   Mr. Brown:   
There were great lake pirates

[10:46 AM]   
Meanwhile a bunch of seriously good captures or a plate fleet cutting action off the Spanish Main could have loaded a ship like that, which might have run for Canada...but the Pacific Northwest?  Eh.  Grant it.
[10:47 AM]   Mr. Blue:   
He would've had to have either sailed around or through cape horn, around Africa and through the east indies and the entire Pacific Ocean.. or carried the treasure overland and rebuilt the ship on the west coast

[10:49 AM]
LOL
Fortunately this is one of my favorite movies and I don't care about the problems.
[10:49 AM]   Mr. Blue:   
A Goonies prequel about One-Eyed Willy would be interesting, to make it make sense
How'd he get there, who's he hiding his treasure from
How he gets all his treasures

[11:01 AM]   
Ship was OK for 1632
I was thinking it would be an older design but no
"Look!   It's the remains of Willy's ship!   The Inferno!"

https://i.huffpost.com/gen/1062251/thumbs/o-SUNKEN-SHIPS-SWEDEN-570.jpg?4

"Look at all the RICH STUFF!"

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQrKdO1qTEDzu6z0GX-bVEQJXE7xZKN-HdTYWaxojn_pvdlNRWzyA

(sorry...gotta pause...getting too giggly IRL)
"Watch out for boody traps!"  "BOOBY TRAPS!"  "That's what I said!

https://www.texasbeyondhistory.net/belle/images/icon-excavations.jpg

...thing sat unmaintained in salt water for 350 years after all...
[11:12 AM]   Mr. Blue:   
yes

[11:16 AM]   Mr. Brown:   
Yes, how it was able to still sail like that is just not right

 

601 - Yuri Did It, The MIB's Found The Wiki Page Too Embarrassing, China Officially Didn't Exist

[2:27 PM]   

https://allthatsinteresting.com/dyatlov-pass-investigation

Heard about this new investigation but haven't read about it yet
[2:27 PM]   Mr. Brown:   
yes more investigating
more stuff released

[2:28 PM]   
I still think the 3 Yuri's tried and failed to assimilate everyone into the Yuri Collective.
[2:29 PM]   Mr. Brown:   
lol
Yuri?  
No not you. Yuri.
No not you either.
Yes (pointing at small Yuri raising hand) you.

[2:32 PM]   
"Igor...I know it sounds kind of crazy but... Wasn't there only one Yuri on the team when we left?"
[2:33 PM]   Mr. Brown:   
The weather theory is interesting
The way the wind comes around the mountain there making it seem like something bad was coming their way.
they for sure were suffering from hypothermia
that is a given
Just what drove them to it?

[2:34 PM]   
According to Wikipedia they were driven to it on a train
and then by truck
The group arrived by train at  Ivdel  (Ивдель), a town at the centre of the northern province of Sverdlovsk Oblast in the early morning hours of 25 January 1959.[7]  They then took a truck to Vizhai (Вижай) – a lorry village that is the last inhabited settlement to the north
(just being a jerk ;) "Just what drove them to it?")
[2:35 PM]   Mr. Brown:   
HAHAH
did not notice

[2:37 PM]   
Looks like one of the Yuris suspiciously quit after one day
There's yer clue
[2:37 PM]   Mr. Brown:   
Yuri could not handle the Yuri I guess, so Yuri
Lets get back to the group, Yuri

[2:37 PM]   Mr. Blue:   
a lot of the weirder stuff is either uncorroborated or easily explainable
Like how some were missing eyes or tongue.. just picked off by scavengers
"radiation".. no evidence this was even tested

[2:38 PM]   Mr. Brown:   
It was a weather issue
caught a bad wind storm forced them out

[2:38 PM]   Mr. Blue:   
But they were all experienced hikers that knew not to wander out into nowhere
I think someone went nuts.. maybe there was some kind of love triangle and someone got jealous and went nuts and chased them out

[2:37 PM]   
On 28 January, one of the members, Yuri Yudin, who suffered from several health ailments (including  rheumatism  and a  congenital heart defect) turned back due to knee and joint pain that made him unable to continue the hike
"Well...my congenital heart defect is acting up..."
"And your rheumatism?"
"Oh!   Uh...that too.   Anyway.   Enjoy the candy the government asked me to give you all as gifts.   Just wait a few days first."
Really though...first I've read about Yuri Prime.
Why exactly did he go at all?   
[2:41 PM]   Mr. Brown:   
I got to beat this heart problem.  Oh crap, its not working.  bye guys!

[2:41 PM]
"Hiker and not-insane-killer Yuri Yuden, pictured here, says he quit on day one, and who could doubt such a face?"   

[2:46 PM]

Mr. Brown:   
that guy is so sick
Look at all that rheumatoid
lol

[2:48 PM]   
Too weak to continue...yet walked back home all day by himself.
[2:48 PM]   Mr. Brown:   
Went around the corner, continued to follow the group
I'm gonna kill Yuri
No not that one the other one
No the other one
Ah Hell, I'll kill them all

[2:49 PM]   
In 1967, Sverdlovsk writer and journalist Yuri Yarovoi (Russian:  Юрий Яровой) published the novel  Of the Highest Degree of Complexity,[23]  inspired by the incident.
ah HAH!!!!
Another Yuri!
[2:49 PM]   Mr. Blue:   
Great excuse for when I make plans with someone but then want to break them at the last minute
"hey uhh, I'd love to come bowling but i just realized i have rheumatism and a congenital heart defect."

[2:51 PM]   Mr. Brown:   
what if Yuri was the first Jason?
Shows back up with hockey mask and machete
lol
or he donned a bear pelt and came back with an axe
The night Yuri took Yuri's vodka

[2:58 PM]   
Based on the unexplained massive blunt trauma cases, I'm guessing he usually had a hard time explaining his favorite "Hiking Club"
"That thing must weigh 10 pounds, Yuri.   Why not get a regular stick with a strap and a spike on the end like us?"
Yuri - later in life - shows off his favorite old walking stick, preserved in memory of his friends. 

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcR7mGnWF9oaq_DUf8NpXHgSzd_k3-GQ4KJ3ZQLRLypPBEaVH8iR

[3:05 PM]   Mr. Blue:   
“Why do they call you 'Cudgel Killer', anyway?”

[3:06 PM]   Mr. Brown:   
I wonder if the other Yuris had cool nicknames

[3:07 PM]   
"One solid hit and this thing can knock the eyes clean out of a wom-   ...wolf."   



[11:37 AM]   Mr. Blue:   
Damn, someone scrubbed the MIB wiki

[11:39 AM]   Mr. Brown:   
Stuff missing?

[11:40 AM]   Mr. Blue:   
I remember it gave examples of how they looked and acted weird
Like one studied an object like it was the first time he'd seen it... it was just a regular pen or something

[11:46 AM]   
Awww
The MiBs scrubbed the MiB page?
[11:47 AM]   Mr. Blue:   
Heh
Maybe the MiBs have MiBs
[black Cadillac pulls away, another black Cadillac pulls up]
"You know most supposed visits of the purported men in black are never corroborated!   Many turn out to be nothing but hoaxes!"
"How do you know we're not just some guys from your town here pulling a prank?"
"Or we could just be regular Jims going about our business, right?”
“Oh, and if you talk, something might happen to you."
[he picks up the cat and inspects it, even sniffing it]
"YOUR planet earth is filled with hoaxers and pranksters."

[11:48 AM]   
Maybe the MIBs have a BiB
Boss in Black
[11:48 AM]   Mr. Brown:   
Boss calls them in to the office "uh so i see on wiki here that we have some descriptions (taps pen) Well it looks like you're going to have to go through concealment training again."
"Idiots! I showed you and explained pens last week"
"Damnit Jerry, you didn't wear your official sunglasses"

[11:52 AM]   
"Hi!   United States of America Government Water Company.   Is the female of the species home?"
[11:53 AM]   Mr. Blue:   
heh

[11:54 AM]   Mr. Brown:   
"Hi!  This is the USA uh um Fish Inspection.  Yes fish.  May I talk to the bipedal hunter of the den?"
(MIB looking around the room) "So anyway, you saw nothing because it was swamp gas and Venus. I notice you have a lot of hostages, eh I mean plants around your house. Do they get fed well?"

[11:56 AM]   Mr. Blue:   
heh

[11:59 AM]   Mr. Brown:   
Somebody should to a skit where MIBs show up but the alien did not leave yet
They keep trying to distract the home owners so they don't see the alien while telling the alien to get out of there
lol

[12:05 PM]   
"Him?   He's not there."
(one leans over and whispers) "She's not there...sorry.   Males aren't blue.   And don't exist."
"I don't appreciate ... her ... stunning my husband and doing whatever she's doing to him with whatever that is."   
"He's suffering from mass hysteria."
(other) "Does this household have a history of swamp gas or St. Elmo's Fire?"
[12:21 PM]   Mr. Blue:   
heh




[1:25 PM]   
Right
Unthinkable

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-47084374

"In short, we wish to pretend that "China" didn't happen before the revolution.   And this so-called Imperial period promotes commercialism and consumerism."
(advisor leans in, whispers)
"Oh that's right, we're an economic superpower now...uh...it promotes...uh...not-socialist core values."
Honestly I never understand what this brand of twerp thinks is gonna happen.
Almost on par with the Christian terrified that a drawing of The Devil will corrupt them.
(government meeting) "There's a problem with "Yanxi Palace".   Our studies show a distinct possibility that 100s of millions of our people will suddenly want to go back to an imperial lifestyle where 98% of the people are miserable commoners, and 99% of the remaining live in aristocratic servitude to people that can just have them impoverished or killed if they serve the tea wrong."   
"Goodness!   Can we see the stats?"   
"Yes!   (hands over McDonald's napkin) We thought it out over lunch."
[1:57 PM]   Mr. Blue:   
Yeah, just tell the producers to add in a story arc about some commoner people and make them be constantly covered in animal feces and dying of various diseases

[2:16 PM]   
"New hilarious spin-off: 'Yanki Peasants'!"
"What we really need is an experienced rice planter."   (audience laughs)
"Look!   There's a little old lady bent double.   She'll know."   (audience giggles)   
"Hey, old woman.   We need to know what kind of rice this is.   Hello?   Old lady?"
(beat)
"I'm 22."   (audience laughs)   "But I've been planting out in the sun since I've been 4."   (audiences roars...players must wait before next line.)
[2:20 PM]   Mr. Blue:   
heh

[2:21 PM]   
"Do you know what kind of rice this is...um...young lady?"   (laughter)
"Mmmm...no.   Something new.   Ask one of my 7 children."   (audience loses it)
"Wow!   7 children!"   (giggles)
"It used to be 10 but three of them died…so I’m doing pretty good!"  (audience loses it)