Saturday, November 4, 2017

433 - "Rogue Star Wars-ers", Steakhouse Riot, and Damned Apostrophe's

[8:14 AM] Mr. Silver:
Went to "Rogue One" ... which, interestingly, leads right to "Star Wars", so we watched it too at home.  Then watched the ball drop and blew up some explosives and went to bed.
[8:14 AM] Mr. Blue:
I forget what I even did... watched TV I think
How was Rogue One?
[8:15 AM] Mr. Silver:
I'll have to see it again, but it's scarily close to the best Star Wars movie that's been made.
[8:16 AM] Mr. Blue:
Nice
There wasn't really a lot of hype for it until like a month before it was released.
I figured that indicated the studios weren't thrilled with it.
[8:16 AM] Mr. Silver:
Fan boys always say "Empire Strikes Back!  Empire Strikes Back!" 
However, in my opinion ESB just ends. 
With nothing resolved. 
Its merely “Return of the Jedi: Part 1”. 
I prefer a finished product. I'm a "New Hope" faithful.
"Empire was dark!"
Yeah...OK...
“Rogue One” wins in that category throughout
Transitions very well from one to the other, making "Star Wars" a film about how grim the situation has gotten.
Hehe
Star Wars – Alpha (1970s): A tale about an awakening Jedi going off to have adventures, save the girl, and stop the monster!"
Star Wars – Omega (2010s): A tale about the last chance the rebellion having left is a farm kid, a tired old man, and a career criminal who just doesn’t care."
It was nice to watch with a different perspective.
[8:22 AM] Mr. Blue:
I’d rank them: ESB, then a New Hope, then The Force Awakens, then Return of the Jedi, then all the prequels
Though of the prequels I only saw the first one and part of the second. That was enough though.
[8:27 AM] Mr. Silver:
#3 was the best of those, if still silly in places
[8:27 AM] Mr. Blue:
1 wasn't awful IMO
remember that guy that did the critique of episode 1 that was longer than episode 1 itself?
he might've critiqued the entire prequels
it was good though
[8:28 AM] Mr. Silver:
I believe he did, yes.
[8:30 AM] Mr. Blue:
i think from a film standpoint it was far too much CGI
IV, V and VI were shot on location in Tunisia, the redwood forest, Norway for Hoth.  there was hardly any of that in the prequels.  and they even replaced characters that were made with practical effects in the first films with CGI
[8:27 AM] Mr. Silver:
We were discussing the prequels last night, actually
We were of the opinion that the worst thing that probably happened and the wasn't shown was Anakin's training problems.
It's like this...Anakin started way too late for the emotional conditioning
AND was more talented than anyone at the academy
AND everyone talked about him as “special”.  Translation: "teased by the other kids"
AND was held back by traditionalist methods instead of put in an accelerated program"
So
I proposed that the scene where Anakin is levitating and slicing fruit was not clearly portrayed.
Quote - "Master Obi Wan would be furious if he knew I was doing this."
[8:32 AM] Mr. Blue:
I see
[8:33 AM] Mr. Silver:
What he was actually saying was “I'm not supposed to be able to do this because I haven't been trained to, and I'm easily better at it than anyone else. The Jedi don't have a training program for this grade of telekinesis, and that goes against the traditions and so the masters don't like it.”
No other Force user had that kind of control.
Every depiction is all crude lifting and pushing.
Yet here Anakin is, moving multiple pieces, and using them independently with fine control.
So the "holding me back" rant was him finally exploding after being told to never express himself and not use his talents for about 13 years.
He went bad without Palpatine doing anything.
Since you only saw part of 2, did you get to the massacre?
[8:37 AM] Mr. Blue:
No
[8:38 AM] Mr. Silver:
Killed a whole clan of Sandpeople – men, women, children, pets, livestock – after being too late to save his mom from them.
Why Padme didn't dump him right there is beyond...anyone...
He was already kind of a creep before it happened, and now he's a spree murderer.
[8:41 AM] Mr. Blue:
Is that why the Sandpeople are so ornery?
[8:41 AM] Mr. Silver:
Nah.
Open secret, they're the Fremen from Dune
I read fairly recently that Lucas couldn't get the rights for either Flash Gordon or Dune, so he dipped into Kurosawa, FG and Dune and then did his own thing.
[8:42 AM] Mr. Blue:
Ah
[8:44 AM] Mr. Silver:
Dune vs Star Wars - Fierce desert world, oppressive empire, latent psionic powers, talented kid, group of mentors who could use "the voice" to make the weak minded do what they wanted..."Spice mines of Kessel"
[8:45 AM] Mr. Blue:
I still also haven’t seen the original Kurosawa film. “The Hidden Fortress” I think
[8:45 AM] Mr. Silver:
I haven't either
He dipped into a lot of stuff for Star Wars.  Fortunately he was restrained by others at the time or we'd probably not be having this conversation.
[8:47 AM] Mr. Blue:
I think we discussed this but the original storyboards were much more outlandish
I think most of the main human characters were intended to be weird aliens
[8:48 AM] Mr. Silver:
Luke was a dwarf
Han was a lizard man
Stuff like that, yes
I wonder how far that went in his head.  Maybe the intent was to have no humans at all because it's not Earth.
Not practical...
Henson coulda done it
Back to "canon" (which may not be anymore), the Sandpeople were a slave race on a lush Endor-like planet with abundant resources which was one of many planets to turn on their corrupt masters.
In retaliation the "Builders" wiped the surface and messed up even the geology
The Sandpeople survived underground and emerged successfully with no way to rebuild.
And still hate aliens with a passion.
[12:26 PM] Mr. Oleo:
You'll successfully be the first person banned from Ponderosa for coupon fraud.
[12:27 PM] Mr. Silver:
Hehe
A potential Game Achievement?  Awesome!  
[12:30 PM] Mr. Oleo:
Officer: "What happened here?" *looking around at pandemonium"
Ponderosa staff: "This man attempted to use a fraudulent coupon and when we banned him, he started ranting about unlocking an achievement... Ran over and smeared banana pudding on his face like war paint, and now he's threateningly wielding chicken legs at the patrons."  
[12:33 PM] Mr. Silver:
So you were there for the "Bonanza Incident" 10 years ago, eh?
You can't just guess detail like that, Mr. Oleo
I was acquitted... I blamed the blue cheese dressing mold
:P
[12:34 PM] Mr. Oleo:
LOL
[1:24 PM] Mr. Blue:
Heheh
[1:24 PM] Ms. Rose:
(rofl)
[1:25 PM] Mr. Blue:
(chanting like Pacino in dog day afternoon)  PONDER-OSA! PONDER-OSA! PONDER-OSA!
[1:25 PM] Mr. Silver:
Hehe
I guess this theme is still good to keep going.
"Golden Corral" doesn't sound like a place to get good food. 
[1:40 PM] Mr. Blue:
No
Nor Cracker Barrel
Or a "Crab Shack"
Or "Outback Steakhouse"... a little too close to "outhouse" for me.
[1:46 PM] Mr. Silver:
Outhouse Steakhouse is a good one :D
Crab Shack I can see a little bit...kind of a gone-native "island" vibe.
"Golden Corral? It's a corral..."
"A golden one"
"But a corral? Like for cattle? What's the floor and smell like in there?"
"No no...like a gathering place at a ranch."
"Yeah...a gathering place for unwashed beasts to drink dirty water and eat hay.  What kinda food is on this menu?"



[9:58 AM] Ms. Rose:
Dammit, Thomas!
“Jan is requesting an email about the recommendation's that Operation's made for her fax issue’s. Her department is having issue’s with random failure’s.”
[9:59 AM] Mr. Silver:
It's spelled "issueses"
(...like I can complain since I've had a swarm of demon apostrophes slipping into words since I learned to write)
[10:01 AM] Ms. Rose:
His email's issue's is one of the random failure's. (Gosh, that hurt to type.)
[10:01 AM] Mr. Blue:
Thoma's Parkins's'on
[10:01 AM] Ms. Rose:
(rofl)
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