Sunday, June 26, 2016

360a - "Indiana Jones and the Unworthy Fanboys", and The Primal Anvil

Mr. Silver:
I personally had zero issues with Crystal Skull
Mr. Amethyst:
It wasn't as bad as most people make it seem
Mr. Brown:
Yes it was a good one
Mr. Silver:
It just wasn't “bad” like the fanboys want to claim.
Mr. Amethyst:
Well, that
Mr. Silver:
People are so fixated on the stupid fridge scene
Nuking the fridge”
Bull
Shit
These are the SAME people who have no trouble with falling out of a plane in a life raft and surviving an alpine plunge.
These are the ones comfortable with Indy NOT getting caught stowing away inside a WWII submarine which has no hiding places, on a cruise of a week or two.
These are the fans who accept mine car chases on tracks NO ONE would EVER build if they even could.
The infamous fridge actually made more sense than all...ALLLLLLLL...of those.
"Aliens?!? That's STUPID! But the Hand of God...twice...and the Hindu pantheon are fine. That's good adventure!"
Mr. Blue:
Kinda like the same people that hate Jar Jar Binks but are OK with the Ewoks
Mr. Amethyst:
LOL
Mr. Silver:
Yeah. Though I was sure Binks was a Sith lord, not an ogrish teddy bear.
Mr. Brown:
Also taking down a plane with birds
No wait that was actually plausible
But seeing Connery running at birds with an umbrella? That was a awesome scene.
Mr. Amethyst:
^
Laughed so hard at that
Mr. Blue:
The Charlemagne he quoted wasn't Charlemagne, apparently
Wasn't anyone.. invented for the script
I think the Connery / Ford dynamic is hard to beat
That could've turned out a lot of different ways, but it was pretty much perfect.
The way they 'introduced' his dad, was it a secret as to who was going to play his dad leading up to the release?
Because it was kind of an unveiling. Like... “Look everyone! it's Sean Connery!”
Mr. Silver:
I can't think of anything very messed up in that one.
I mean, you can't shoot the tail off a biplane with the gunner rig, but...
Mr. Brown:
Well did they have a gunner rig
that could swivel?
Mr. Silver:
The planes?  Definitely
Mr. Blue:
The ending is a little weird I guess, with the knight just kinda hanging out and then them destroying the tomb/
So he's just sitting in there for 1000 years?
Mr. Silver:
I'm a feeble Arthurian Grail scholar, but I am one. And...
Immortality is a bitch
He was flawed and wouldn't admit it.
If he'd reached the perfection required, he would have simply died, complete, like Galahad, and been assumed into Heaven
But he didn't.
He and his brothers took it upon themselves to keep the faith and guard the grail...and even the other two left him.
Mr. Blue:
So when he dies... nobody's guarding it?
Mr. Silver:
Nope
Mr. Blue:
Who sets all those traps back up after someone goes through?
I assume he was maintaining them... oiling wheels... re-tying strings
Mr. Silver:
Those were works of man. It never need them.
God took the grail back, to move it to where it needed to be next
Same as always
I assume the old knight died within a minute or two and went to a glorious reward, but he served no purpose but as a champion of faith.
Mr. Blue:
Also.. I've heard this explained but did Indy & his dad become immortal then?
Or do you have to constantly drink from the cup to stay immortal?
Did it just kinda heal their wounds at that point in time?
Mr. Brown:
You have to stay there to be immortal, other wise it can only heal you.
Mr. Blue:
Got it
Mr. Brown:
Like how the cup cannot cross the seal
Mr. Blue:
Yeah
So to be immortal you have to keep coming back or stay there
Mr. Brown:
Yeah
Mr. Blue:
Or excavate the seal and bring it with you. LOL
Mr. Brown:
I'm sure one sip is OK, but you gotta stay and basically be the guardian to live on.
Mr. Blue:
But why even have it there then?
Since nobody had been there in 1000 years and nobody was going back
Mr. Brown:
Cause God is funny like that
LOL
Honestly though, I always thought “Why would God leave the power in the cup
unless it was meant for somebody?”
Mr. Blue:
It was meant to heal Dr Jones, but he was only shot in the first place because the grail existed.
Mr. Brown:
Sick sick minds
LOL
Mr. Blue:
But it's good. I don't have any major problems with that.
Mr. Silver:
Honest analysis as an amateur Grail scholar?
You are correct.
God left it for His last true seeker - Indy's dad
Indy was a worthy enough seeker to get it. Only his dad understood it.
Though Jones Sr. wanted it until he had his experience, and then he knew he didn't need it anymore.
It was useless to the Nazis...it would destroy anyone unworthy of it through their baser sins.
Greed.  Fear of death. 
Even Indy had to be talked down by his dad.
Whoever they consulted with on that whole mystique knew what they were talking about or read good stuff.
Mr. Blue:
Monkey king, Japanese pirates, a Nazi with a mechanical arm, Leni Reifenstahl
Mr. Silver:
This is quite the stack of plot ideas...
Mr. Blue:
The monkey king sounds cool... but in Africa? no
Mr. Silver:
Monkey king's staff...that'd be a good one to go after.
My bid was for the Cauldron of Life though.
Mr. Brown:
They could go looking for the Fountain of Youth
Mr. Silver:
Bravo!
Problem with the Fountain of Youth is transportation. 
Meanwhile, you can boil all kinds of dead Nazis/Soviets in a cauldron right on the battlefield
Mr. Brown:
Wait!  Indy could find the Ark. Not the little one.
LOL
Mr. Silver:
"Raiders of the Really Big Boat"
Mr. Brown:
Raiders of that Other Ark Noah Made”
Mr. Silver:
(Belloc to Indy in a tavern in Turkey) "Do you realize what the Ark is?  It's a charter!  It's a boat for going fishing with God!"
(Indy) "You want to go fishing with God?  (pulls gun) Let's give Him some bait...right now."



Mr. Silver:
Ever find an anvil?
Mr. Amethyst:
I have my small one still, seems to be working for the time being
Mr. Silver:
Well that's good then
Mr. Amethyst:
Its OK
Mr. Silver:
"I can make tiny armor and weapons...little horseshoes...wee fire irons."
Mr. Amethyst:
"For the stealth units"
Mr. Silver:
I always enjoy the image of a smith trying to make a hammer, tongs and anvil without a hammer, tongs, and anvil. 
"Uhhh..."
Mr. Amethyst:
Right! lol
Mr. Silver:
It's like the old creation myths where the thing that is being created by a god had to already be there.
Mr. Amethyst:
So I guess this is like Minecraft...
Mr. Silver:
"And the great THOOM dove deep into the water until he found some mud, and swam back and made the land from the mud.  And then took water and made the sea..."
(listener) "Uh...excuse me.  Where did the water that-"
(audience) "SHHHH!!!!!"
(listener) "And if there was mud, then didn't that mean th-"
(audience) "SHHHH!!!!!"