[12/8
8:31 AM] Mr. Blue:
At
what point do people acknowledge, like, hey maybe Muslims are a
problem? Not all. But a much higher percentage than any other group
or ethnicity or nationality. And that we obviously suck at vetting.
I
saw people spreading a stat that, since 9/11, 44 deaths were from
Muslim extremists in the US, 45 from Christian extremists.
Uhh...
what's the ratio of Muslims to Christians in the US? 200-1?
200
Christians to 1 Muslim?
UK
& France and pretty much all of Europe is a testament to how
poorly they integrate.
10
child sex rings exposed in the UK in the past 15 years... hundreds of
arrests.. all Pakistani Muslims.
That's
an epidemic
Plus
the occasional random rampage
[12/8
8:36 AM] Mr. Silver:
Yet,
what do you propose?
[12/8
8:38 AM] Mr. Blue:
A
sensible immigration policy
[12/8
8:38 AM] Mr. Silver:
Me?
I dunno...maybe prescribing a course of E
"Take
one of these a day for 2 weeks and f-ing relax."
It
was used as therapy before and is starting again...remarkable
results.
Think
of it as a mental illness...which I think it is anyway.
If
it was a virulent one, the CDC would be looking for a cure.
[12/8
8:40 AM] Mr. Blue:
Build
an immigration “wall”. Sort out the illegal immigrants we
already have here (I’d do a mix of amnesty for those that are
assimilating and contributing, and deportation for those that are
not)
Nobody
from the Middle East. Tell Saudi Arabia and Israel to help their
neighbors
I’m
very liberal but very Middle East anti-immigration
Because
statistically, they're moochers and crooks. Not all, but too many.
I
guess I’m kind of...imposed nationalist/nativist
You
can't just depopulate a region every time there's a conflict and move
everyone to the West. That doesn't help anyone and in fact enables
the people/groups that cause the conflict in the first place.
I
think I’d be fine with families, elderly, orphans seeking refuge.
But
single dudes in their 20s?
Go
fight for your country!
There's
female Kurdish troops fighting ISIS and you
are fleeing to Germany?
You
see those refugees hurling rocks at the Macedonian border, holding a
sign that said “OPEN OR DIE”? I don't want them.
They
were all dudes, by themselves, threatening violence if not helped,
but not willing to fight for their homes.
[12/8
9:02 AM] Mr. Silver:
I
still like my mental illness analogy (for Islamic Extremism)
They
don't need prisons or execution or military intervention. They
need doctors.
[12/8
9:04 AM] Ms. Rose:
I
like my mental illness too, Mr. Silver
Oh!
ANALOGY! Yes, that's what I meant.
[12/8
9:19 AM] Mr. Silver:
Here...insert
"Islamic Extremism"
https://www.ncadd.org/about-addiction/alcohol-drugs-and-crime
[12/8
9:19 AM] Mr. Blue:
So
how do you get 1.6 billion people the mental help they need?
[12/8
9:20 AM] Mr. Silver:
Well,
it's not all of them, obviously.
“Used
responsibly, alcohol can be a pleasurable experience - social, fun,
relaxing.”
“Used
responsibly, Islam can be a pleasurable experience - social, fun,
relaxing.”
They've
been drinking too much Islam...drinking rotgut Islam.
[12/8
9:21 AM] Mr. Blue:
That
goes for any religion. Christianity has the KKK and Boko Haram and
WBC (though WBC is harmless, just annoying). There's Buddhists in
Cambodia chopping people up. Still, it seems like the % of crazies in
Islam is way higher, and the path from normal to crazy is much
shorter and has fewer obstacles than other religions
[12/8
9:21 AM] Mr. Silver:
Yes
I
would, in fact, recommend the same general classification.
[12/8
9:29 AM] Mr. Brown:
Bomb
full of Xanax
[12/8
9:30 AM] Mr. Blue:
^good
idea
[12/8
9:30 AM] Mr. Brown:
Solve
all world problems. Every 8 hours bomb messed up places with Xanax
[12/8
9:30 AM] Mr. Blue:
How
about a Xanax inhalant you spray like you're cropdusting?
[12/8
9:30 AM] Mr. Brown:
Yep
[12/8
9:31 AM] Mr. Blue:
"Hey,
those Palestinians are getting uppity again."
"Ehh...
Get the planes ready."
[12/8
9:31 AM] Mr. Brown:
World
peace
LOL
Everybody
is happy
[12/8
9:33 AM] Mr. Blue:
Maybe
we should drop PS4s and copies of COD and GTA V into the middle east
let
'em get their aggression out in a healthy manner
[12/8
9:36 AM] Mr. Silver:
So,
like the Gay Bomb plan.
Telling
you...just put 'em on a course of E for a few sessions.
[12/8
9:38 AM] Ms. Rose:
The
Xanax bomb/dusting thing would work for about a week. It would
provide a brief economic stimulus (because it's a known side effect
to spend/steal recklessly--not just me) but then everyone would build
up tolerance and the effects would rapidly wear off and before you
know it, everyone is seizing out and then you have a healthcare
crisis.
Xanax
and benzos hit the same receptors in your brain as alcohol, but with
no tummy/motor skills effects. And it's one of the few categories of
drugs that has a real half-life, in terms of dependency. Unlike
alcohol, the first time you take, your tolerance is cut in half. Then
half again. And again. Until you're taking handfuls at a time to get
5 minutes of "relief."
Then
the seizures start. And you can die from them. Benzos are more
dangerous that heroin, IMO.
[12/8
9:41 AM] Mr. Blue:
Well,
you shouldn't take it all the time every day, just as needed.
I’ve
been taking Ativan for 6+ years without issue
[12/8
9:42 AM] Ms. Rose:
I
have a script for Ativan, too. It's usually empty in about 5-6 days.
[12/8
9:43 AM] Mr. Blue:
Jesus
[12/8
9:43 AM] Ms. Rose:
But
"as needed" to a junkie is something entirely different! ;)
[12/8
9:43 AM] Mr. Brown:
Zoloft
is what they had me on, I believe
[12/8
9:43 AM] Ms. Rose:
That's
an SSRI. Totally different.
[12/8
9:43 AM] Mr. Brown:
I
ballooned to 215 lb and promptly got off the stuff
[12/8
9:44 AM] Ms. Rose:
Selective
seratonin non-reuptake inhibitor. (I love that term. Fun to say and
spell.)
[12/8
9:44 AM] Mr. Brown:
I
was having small anxiety attacks, so instead of helping me with them
they just fed me the pills.
I
got a new doc. He took me off them
I’ve
been fine now
[12/8
9:45 AM] Ms. Rose:
Then
your doctor was an idiot. Zoloft and SSRIs/SSNRIs take at least 3
weeks to "work."
[12/8
9:45 AM] Mr. Brown:
No,
I was very happy
I
took it every day
Like
I said; I ended up weighing 215 lbs
lol
[12/8
9:45 AM] Ms. Rose:
If
you have anxiety, you can't wait 3 weeks. lol
You
boys just ask Aunt Rose if your doctor prescribes something.
Chances are I've read about it and/or abused it.
[12/8
9:53 AM] Mr. Blue:
It's
interesting how the things most meds are used for weren't it's
original purpose
Benzodiazepines
are mostly anti-seizure meds
Anti-histamines
were mostly anti-depressants
Some
anti-depressants were anti-histamines
Viagra
was for like, blood clotting or something
[12/8
9:55 AM] Ms. Rose:
Look
how many things Botox is used for now.
[12/8
9:55 AM] Mr. Silver:
It's not just for horrible paralysis and death anymore!
[12/8
9:56 AM] Mr. Blue:
yep
[12/8
9:56 AM] Ms. Rose:
Migraines,
skin problems, breathing disorders...and acute Hollywood-ism.
[12/8
9:56 AM] Mr. Blue:
Heh
They
used to put lithium in 7-Up
Also,
in places where natural levels of lithium in drinking water are
higher, suicide is lower
[12/8
9:59 AM] Ms. Rose:
Mom
works at a group home for half-crazy folks and they still use
Lithium. It's super effective. My mom gets to play with (I mean,
"distribute") all kinds of fun drugs. I keep asking her if
I can take an educational field trip to her workplace.
[12/8
9:59 AM] Mr. Blue:
Yeah,
I thought it was out of favor but at the eye doctor I overheard a
lady tell them she was taking it
I
read up on it... still used and relatively tolerable
[12/8
10:00 AM] Ms. Rose:
Oldie,
but a goodie.
[12/8
10:00 AM] Mr. Blue:
Just
a type of salt
They
prescribe St John's Wort in Germany for mild depression
I’ve
tried it and didn't notice anything though
[12/8
10:02 AM] Ms. Rose:
Same.
I "tried" kava and some of those other "natural"
highs.
I'm
sorry to be annoying with all the drug talk. I don't mean to hi-jack
conversations. :(
[12/8
10:09 AM] Mr. Brown:
I
drink beer. Seems to work
[12/8
10:38 AM] Mr. Silver:
Don't
take anything, myself
I
can't relate with you jet set types and your chemical parties
I
probably missed it all because I've never told anyone in a white coat
that I'm stressed out most of the time.
(head
shrinker) "I see...what meds are you taking for it."
"None.
Well...rum or martinis or shamanic journeywork."
"This
is serious. Take a sample of these. They're very
effective in cases of non-dependence. They don't mix with the
booze, so cut down to half."
I
dunno...lotta voodoo in these drugs
"Starts
working in 3 weeks"
And
placebos test well
What
do they actually do that takes that long?
Why
does a magic prescription work as well?
"I
have great anxiety, babalao."
"A
servant of the Serpent loa is coiled around your heart. Pour a
splash of red wine on this stone every day before dinner. It
will take about 3 weeks to loosen him."
[12/8
11:18 AM] Mr. Blue:
3
weeks? Dunno, probably to build it up in your system
I
noticed them right away
[12/8
11:23 AM] Mr. Silver:
3
weeks of adherence to ceremony is plenty of time to visualize it all
away, and usually more than enough for any life situations or minor
mood influencing inflammations to pass.
[12/8
11:24 AM] Mr. Blue:
I
had 26 years to visualize it all away
[12/8
11:24 AM] Mr. Silver
Did
you consult a witch doctor to attach a ritual at any point?
[12/8
11:24 AM] Ms. Rose:
Let
me just say... you all have penises and few hormones. I NEED DRUGS
FOR MY TINY WOMAN BRAIN!
[12/8
11:24 AM] Mr. Silver:
This
is all an anthropologist considering the power of cultural ritual,
BTW
I've
never used the chemical stuff so have no clue.
Just
"take this thing and believe...it takes 21 days..." sounds
specifically familiar.
Meanwhile
I have a shot of vodka and am happy in a few minutes.
[12/8
11:29 AM] Ms. Rose:
But
what if that stuff doesn't give "instant gratification"
anymore? The 3-weeks thing is what docs told me. After prescribing
one anti-depressant after another. "Hmmm, these usually work
immediately in dudes and non-addicts. Let's try it for another 3
weeks and then we'll switch you."
3
weeks, or whenever the office runs out of free samples, whichever
comes first.
[12/8
11:32 AM] Mr. Silver:
(folk
healer) "It didn't work? It's a bad case. Switch to
white wine."
[12/8
11:38 AM] Mr. Blue:
But
I can't believe. I'm a de-bunker. A chronic debunker
[12/8
11:42 AM] Mr. Silver:
You
believe in science. A modern gateway faith
No
scientist has ever fudged his results for profit, after all.
...which,
oddly enough, is one of the main arguments of climate change deniers.
[12/8
11:45 AM] Ms. Rose:
Mmmm.
Fudge.
[12/8
11:46 AM] Mr. Blue:
I'd
rather take medication based on the advice of people in lab coats
over a naked guy with a bone through his nose
[12/8
11:49 AM] Mr. Silver:
Bone
through the nose is SO Hollywood.
Probably
more people in LA do it than shamans, really.
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