Saturday, December 28, 2019

578 - Schrödinger's Poison Pill, But Worship?, God Gets A Computer, and One Nonsense In Three Human Conceits

[12:38 PM] 
[12:38 PM]  Mr. Brown.: 
Been searching instead of using it
I can break physics
lol
[12:38 PM] 
By the level 2 version I was meh
By level 3 I was "what a load of Horse Sh-" and self-ranted about physicists needing to have a logician sit in on these things.
Lets try level 4.  
We have 2 boxes with a physicist in each...and a monitoring scientist outside each one. 
And inside the boxes is a poison capsule
And outside the boxes is a poison capsule. 
Now
Set all of them off
And find something better to do.
[12:59 PM]  Mr. Blue: 
Well, i don't understand Schrodinger's Cat, so why would i understand this?
[1:00 PM]  Mr. Brown.: 
Its just them trying to show how you don't know what is in the box while knowing what was put in the box
until you open it you don't know if anything has changed
[1:03 PM]  Mr. Blue: 
It claims that both possibilities exist simultaneously in reality until opened
which is not true
[4:03 PM] 
Totally missed the Schrödinger's Cat thing after I got back from training.
Also Hitler vs Lenin is hilarious!
Point of the cat thing is there are all these conditions the content of the box CAN be in
But you only see the box
[4:04 PM]  Mr. Blue: 
yeah
[4:05 PM] 
You know there is a cat in it
You know it was alive when put in
You know there was a poison bomb put in
You know there was a random trigger put in
But until you open the box, you have no idea if the cat is alive or dead
[4:06 PM]  Mr. Blue: 
yeah
[4:06 PM] 
So
It's "both"
Realistically no, but in terms of the experiment, you have to treat it as "both"
[4:07 PM]  Mr. Blue: 
i mean i guess
but there are an infinite number of other possibilities
[4:07 PM] 
There you go. It's all the potential
So
Here's kinda why the example came about
You take an atom of hydrogen
O (← atom of H)
There's the "box"
In that box is 1 electron...somewhere
. (← the electron)
It could be anywhere in that box
AND
You can find out where.
But as soon as you look, you get a result and some of the other info can't be measured anymore
Like how fast it was moving or what direction it was going
Its all lost
You could also figure out Direction - but lose the ability to find speed and location.
Or you could figure out Speed...but lose location and direction
All lost as soon as you establish
[4:10 PM]  Mr. Blue: 
i see
[4:11 PM] 
And that really messes up some of the math
But if you treat the electron as just "in there"
You can figure out other things. 
One of the most bizarre theories I've ever read on topic - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One-electron_universe
And now I'm leaving.



[3:52 PM] 
It comes into my mind occasionally...especially when listening to Catholic atonal droning on the radio in passing...
That if I were a god, there's little I'd find more irritating than people worshiping me.
Acknowledge?  Fine
Admire?  Fine
Ask for a hand occasionally?  Fine
[4:01 PM]  Mr. Blue: 
It makes God seem anything but omnipotent
More like petty
Which is why I'm comfortable leaning agnostic atheist... I doubt a god would care anyway
[4:08 PM] 
Well as an agnostic atheist that would basically be par
Just clip off the "would care anyway"
[4:09 PM]  Mr. Blue: 
yes



[4:10 PM] 
"In the Beginning, God got his new PC and couldn't figure out the setup poster and called His only Son to help hook it up.”
And He flipped the switch and it lit up.
[4:11 PM]  Mr. Brown.: 
Be more like He started with one PC as an adolescent, got angry at it and broke it
Got another one and He's much older now and asked for help from his son
[4:11 PM] 
And His Son told Him how to turn it back off, and He saw that He got it and that was good.”
[4:12 PM]  Mr. Blue: 
lol
You're good with the Bible-Speak riffs. Not sure why I can't do that
[4:13 PM] 
And that was the first day...and the Son said aren't You gonna do anything with it?"
And God said "The Guy said I could return it by the 7th day, and all this stuff has Me flustered."
(I'm sure you can see where this is leading by Day 7)
[4:15 PM]  Mr. Brown.: 
By day 7 its got viruses and God has given up?
[4:15 PM] 
"And by the 8th day, God realized He messed up and had to keep it"
[4:15 PM]  Mr. Blue: 
"And on day 2 God downloaded Weatherbug, rendering His browser useless."
[4:16 PM]  Mr. Brown.: 
On the 3rd day got got a pop up that this is The Universe saying there is an issue with an infection, call this number
[4:17 PM] 
"And God said you can use any app but Britannica Online Apple Edition, and the Son said 'this is Windows', and the Lord said 'it's not an Apple?"
[4:17 PM]  Mr. Blue: 
"And on day 4 God had his only Son's friend, Steve, setup email for him.  He warned Him not to open anything from anyone He didn't know."
[4:18 PM] 
We started too late.  This is a fun one.
:D
[4:18 PM]  Mr. Brown.: 
on the 5th day god did a system restore back to day 2
[4:22 PM] 
"And God installed SIM Earth and set the map to Enormous but only worked on one little patch and just kept clicking the Add Creature buttons and not seeing any show up because he was zoomed out to the Globe screen.  And the Son said 'you're not doing it right...click the minus sign...there...up THERE.  Click...like...5000%'."
[4:22 PM]  Mr. Blue: 
heh
[4:23 PM] 
"And the Son did sigh and said to restart but God said it was good and he was going to work with the creature creator tomorrow"
"And God created a little version of himself and the Son said 'oh please, really?"
And God said look I'll make one of your Mom.  And the Son said 'DAD!'.  I suppose you're going to put of Me in there too.  And God said "maybe later"
[4:24 PM]  Mr. Brown.: 
and the little version walked off a cliff so he had to recreate it
[4:29 PM]
And the two sims weren't doing what He commanded and he right-clicked and deleted them.”
"And God came back after a while and the two little people weren't in the trash where they were supposed to be anymore and there were copies all over and He said 'How did THAT happen?"  And the Son checked the settings and Free Reproduce was checked and said 'they're messing up your whole game. I told You'."
"And God opened the Disasters panel and said 'I can fix My Creation.  I'll just set Flood to max at 40 and they'll drown."
[4:31 PM]  Mr. Blue: 
lol
[12:05 PM]  Mr. Brown.: 
and so all the creatures of the sim were speaking in such a babble that God's son was called to help and he suggested a disk clean up.
[1:34 PM] 
"and God said He was messing with the Language settings and told His Son to look how funny it is when cranked to 100.  And His Son said You're gonna break it."



(later...) 
[2:30 PM]
Sadly, all these "God's PC" jokes require alluding to one of the silliest things Christian Theology ever proposed and sects subscribed to...
Specifically Jesus existing before he existed
I could go through a pile of "logic" but the grand conclusion is...well...ridiculous.
You can't have a prefect tri-partite God if He wasn't perfect back to the beginning of time, so Jesus and the Holy Spirit had to be there the entire time.  
Simple!
Screw the paradox that He couldn't have the kid with Mary if that was true.
It's only the entire foundation of the faith.
The 3-in-1 package deal was made up later by people who couldn't find anything better to do.
[2:36 PM]  Mr. Blue: 
if it was a movie script it'd have been thrown out
[2:39 PM] 
(Bible fanboy webcast) "Plooooooot hoooooole!   Check dis shit out and you tell me wassup with this noise!"
No Title
Christians profess "one God in three divine persons" (God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Ghost). This is not necessarily to be understood as a belief in (or worship of) three Gods, nor as a belief that there are three subjectively-perceived "aspects" in one God, both of which the Roman Catholic Church condemns as heresy. The Catholic Church also rejects the notions that God is "composed" of its three persons and that "God" is a genus containing the three persons.
The heretics haven't chimed in on this particular wiki...probably because they don't care
[2:40 PM]  Mr. Blue: 
It's a quick rewrite to the script cuz the guy they hired to play the Son died before filming was over.
Biblical “Game of Death”
[2:42 PM] 
(script writer #1) “How about a Marx Brothers style mirror gag where Father, Son, and Holy Spirit all walk into the same room and start mimicking each others moves?”
(script writer #2) "Nah...they'd all be perfect at it..."
(producer watching dailies) "Stop it.  Stop it!  FREEZE the FILM!  What IS this?" 
(director) "It's a comic bit.  None of them are supposed to be in The Virgin Mary's room, right?  But they all sneak in at the same time and see each other and they're all God, right?  So they think they can convince each other they're in front of a mirror and-"
"Why???"
"Well it's funny.  See, they try to imitate each others' moves to trick the ot-"
"They're GOD!  He's not gonna make a mistake!  This isn't funny!  And how can THEIR kid...who ISN'T BORN YET...be there?  And what is Jesus there for anyway?  To conceive Himself??? What are you pervs peddling here? Who added this?" 
"But!"
"Cut it and and follow the source material!"
[2:55 PM]  Mr. Blue: 
No surprise the 4-way incest scene was a hit in the Middle East
[2:56 PM] 
hehe



[3:02]
So going with the whole God at a PC thing
God is the programmer/user...the Holy Ghost is the mouse pointer...Jesus is the Sim
God is left handed, in this case...
Holy Spirit sits at the left hand of God...which is on the mouse.
So that means he must move The Jesus with the arrow keys on His right hand, which oddly enough are in the configuration of a...oh...hmm... (makes the sign of the arrow keys... Up Down Left Right) 
Up to Heaven/forward
Down to Earth/back
Isn't it miraculously unlikely how these gags work out?
Sort of like all the adventure games and such that I write from whole cloth only to find out there are matches to stuff that already exists when I start researching for details.
Like...names and histories and dates and locations that fall into place that I knew nothing about before I wrote the plot.

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