Sunday, March 3, 2019

507 - Roaches, Habits, Mediocrity, And Heresy All Live For Eternity

[2:17 PM]  Mr. Brown: 
Lookat all those uses
Haha! Says it will kill roaches
I'll believe it when i see it
[2:21 PM] 
It'll kill roaches! 
"Just fill a tank with WD-40 and throw the offending bugs in.  After they've drunk it all, they'll starve to death."
[2:21 PM]  Mr. Brown: 
lol
[2:22 PM]  Mr. Blue: 
hehe
[2:22 PM] 
"As a faster alternative, use in combination with a common grill lighter to encourage the roaches to leave the flame-filled area."
[2:23 PM]  Mr. Brown: 
Huff WD-40 and you will forget about the roaches
[2:24 PM] 
Heh



[3:31 PM]  Mr. Blue: 
What the F is Brett going on about?
[3:32 PM] 
Arguing with his cell service about a number he can't get, I think, and how we used to just dial 7 numbers.
[3:32 PM]  Mr. Blue: 
Sounds like he's getting his telecom history from Hollywood films
"Back in the day everyone's number started with 555"
[3:33 PM] 
"Now see, if you watch old movies, you'll see that in those days, most people ended phone calls by just hanging up without saying goodbye.”
Films today do the same thing, but it's only in there out of tradition. Are you listening to me???"
[3:34 PM]  Mr. Brown: 
Back in the day you had to holler down the hollow
Now you got a new fangled thingamajigger
[3:34 PM]  Mr. Blue: 
"If you were someone important you'd just pick up a phone and start talking into it!  Not anymore!"
[3:34 PM]  Mr. Brown: 
Operator! Connect me to the Patsys!
[3:35 PM] 
True, Mr. Blue
"Dammit, we've gotta get a man out to the site!  (Picks up phone)  Get Johnson out to Tucson, right away!  (hangs up)



[9:08 AM]  Mr. McGreen: 
The TV is playing the song from “Drive”
the synth-y one
[9:09 AM]  Mr. Blue: 
College” probably
[9:09 AM]  Mr. McGreen: 
Yeah that's it
[9:09 AM]  Mr. Blue: 
College” is good
It's just 1 guy and he has a bunch of projects
[9:09 AM]  Mr. McGreen: 
David Grellier
Those kinda people flip me out. I'm not creative enough to have one project let alone several
[9:36 AM]  Mr. Blue: 
yeah it sucks
i wish i was talented
[9:37 AM]  Mr. McGreen: 
I came to the realization this year that compared to most people i know i could do art well, but compared to actual artists in the world i suck
[9:39 AM]  Mr. Brown: 
Or you have so many ideas you over do it and finish nothing
[9:39 AM]  Mr. McGreen: 
If i try to make anything i just think what's the point?
Why bother?
So its been months since i've done anything
[9:43 AM]  Mr. Blue: 
Yeah there are 7 billion people on earth so it's hard to compete with that
now that we're all connected together with internet and overnight shipping and stuff
[9:43 AM]  Mr. McGreen: 
I think i just hit the point i realized i'm not special or unique
[9:44 AM]  Mr. Blue: 
Maybe realizing that makes you special and unique since everyone else thinks they are.
[9:44 AM]  Mr. McGreen: 
I dont think so, lol
Sometimes i think, why do we do anything?
Everything is going to end someday, there will be no people left, no one to remember anything that ever happened
[9:46 AM]  Mr. Brown: 
Your family will
[9:47 AM]  Mr. McGreen: 
No, i'm saying someday we will ALL be gone
There will be no people left
The universe will have no acknowledgment of our existence
[9:47 AM]  Mr. Brown: 
Aliens come - find old memory sticks and phones. Get them working - find a lot of dick pics
[9:48 AM] 
"What was wrong with this race?"
[9:48 AM]  Mr. Blue: 
i think some people's motivation for doing things is so that that there is something left of them after they die.
[9:49 AM]  Mr. McGreen: 
Yeah but when we all die nobody will be left to care
[9:49 AM]  Mr. Blue: 
That's true
[9:49 AM]  Mr. McGreen: 
The universe certainly won't
But its not like i'll go out and be wild and be a bank robber or something because i dont want to live in prison the rest of my life or be addicted to substances
[9:51 AM]  Mr. Brown: 
Somtimes you just do stuff cause YOU will remember you did it.
[9:54 AM]  Mr. McGreen: 
I mainly do things just to kill time, not just to "experience them"
[9:56 AM] 
I try to entertain the living.
And try things while I'm here.
You write a book on Earth and maybe some folks will read it.  You record an interesting life and maybe celestials will watch it.
Being a Pan-Reincarnationist helps.
I have been before this Earth.
I have been spending lives on this Earth.
And I will outlast this Earth.
And there are other versions of this one I have seen and will see.
And this is just one world.
On the other hand, if you believe in some eternal life after this single one, everyone who would actually care would end up there anyway.
[9:59 AM]  Mr. McGreen: 
Even when i'm involved in christian faith, the idea of heaven has always been hard for me to swallow
I could believe in God, but Heaven?  ehhhhh
[9:59 AM]  
"Oh boy...another perfect billion years of me being mediocre.  Eternity has been all I dreamed."
So, you're a Sheol man, eh?
[10:00 AM]  Mr. McGreen: 
Like most christians are in it for eternal life but i feel like that was just a metaphor
In reality you'll just have a better life while here just by being Christian
[10:01 AM] 
Billions of Christians did not have a better life here by being Christian.
[10:00 AM]  Mr. Brown: 
Well if energy keeps existing how is it a metaphor?
[10:01 AM]  Mr. McGreen: 
Going to heaven is much different than merely existing as something else
Heaven is consciousness
[10:01 AM]  Mr. Blue: 
What is "energy keeps existing"?
And ignorance is bliss
[10:02 AM]  Mr. McGreen: 
Right. And these are the holes that have always kept me from having a strong faith
or a legitimate one
[10:02 AM]  Mr. Brown: 
energy does not go away, it moves on
[10:02 AM] 
I believe Mr. Brown is getting at the Physics "preservation of information" concept
[10:02 AM]  Mr. Blue: 
A lot of pretty prominent christians didn't have strong faith
Mother Theresa comes to mind
It's hard to imagine that if god or jesus existed that he'd be terribly upset with me not believing in him or an afterlife.
that seems petty.
and if he does exist, i am as he made me.
[10:03 AM]  Mr. Brown: 
Well part of the faith is knowing we cannot be perfect and always strong in the faith
[10:04 AM]  Mr. Blue: 
The main selling point of Christianity is you can do whatever the F you want and then accept Jesus at the very last second and you're golden
[10:04 AM]  Mr. Brown: 
Eh
There is still the fear that you messed up enough
[10:05 AM]  Mr. Blue: 
There's a reason why the big religions became big
And it's not because they are correct
[10:05 AM] 
That's kind of a theological fallacy - makes it sound like all you have to do is say it at the end.
[10:07 AM]  Mr. Brown: 
When they talk about acceptance of jesus, there's more than just saying “oh yeah I belive in that jesus guy, he was cool”. Then you're saved
lol
You're supposed to spread the word, do good, all the stuff jesus said to do
[10:08 AM]  Mr. Blue: 
But in theory charles manson could be in heaven right now and david cassidy in Hell just because of how they truly felt at the last minute
[10:11 AM]  Mr. Blue: 
jesus seems like he'd be cool with me not believing in him
[10:11 AM]  Mr. McGreen: 
see i kinda agree with that too
[10:11 AM]  Mr. Blue: 
"You're a skeptical guy Mr. Blue... I like that about you. We need that kinda thinking in heaven."
"you murdered an entire family.. that takes guts.  We need guts."
[10:13 AM]  Mr. Brown: 
Well, one day God decided My creations are always going to be stupid, I guess.
(Zing! - Mr. Silver)
[10:13 AM]  Mr. Blue: 
Gotta do it...
Weird to think that jesus was probably like 5'2"
[10:16 AM]  Mr. McGreen: 
I really feel like the church that only went off what Jesus actually said, himself, would be very liberal and not at all conservative
[10:21 AM]  Mr. Blue: 
He was certainly progressive for his time if we assume his historicity based on the gospels
But things change
At one point religious institutions were the leaders in science, learning and other innovations. Modern ones mostly hold that kind of stuff back
[10:24 AM]  Mr. McGreen: 
does your church do the whole Bible infallibility thing Mr Brown
like “dictation theory”?
[10:25 AM]  Mr. Brown: 
I have a woman pastor
[10:25 AM]  Mr. McGreen: 
ok?
lol
[10:25]
[10:26 AM]  Mr. Blue: 
"Holy Moly!  Da pastuh's a broad!"
[10:26 AM]  Mr. McGreen: 
*Dictation Theory: God dictated the books of the Bible word by word as if the biblical authors were dictating machines;[19] 
*Verbal Plenary Inspiration: This view gives a greater role to the human writers of the Bible, while maintaining a belief that God preserved the integrity of the words of the Bible."[20] The effect of inspiration was to move the authors so as to produce the words God wanted.[19] In this view the human writers' "individual backgrounds, personal traits, and literary styles were authentically theirs, but had been providentially prepared by God for use as his instrument in producing Scripture."[20] 
*Dynamic Inspiration: The thoughts contained in the Bible are inspired, but the words used were left to the individual writers.[19]
I've always believed it was most likely Dynamic Inspiration
[10:27 AM]
Depending my age, level of theological investigation, and skills in discernment I got through those three already. What, officially, is option four?
Richard Jeni "I didn't like church and would fuss because I was 9 and bored."  (mom voice) "[smack!]Hush!  This is God's house!"  "This is God's house?"

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