[8:41
AM] Mr. Blue:
“Orca”
I'd
remembered the movie being gross and disturbing
I
guess with the whale fetus and Bo Derek getting her leg bit off i
didn't like it as a kid
It's
definitely a low-rent Jaws
Even
the "USS Indianapolis" speech was replaced with a 10 second
"my wife and child were killed by a drunk driver" spiel
But
decent still
It's
more believable for a killer whale to be vengeful and spiteful than a
shark
I
would say it's The Fog of eco-horror films... not well liked in its
time and not the best of its genre, but a solid entry. A
quintessential one
[8:56
AM]
"They'd
dropped me off for work and I saw it...that black and white face
behind the wheel...like a panda face...cute, but this was cold and
damp. It just plowed into them and kept going. The
monster. When they caught the orca, it's blood alcohol level
was insane...Killer Whale indeed."
[9:00
AM] Mr. Blue:
"August
14th 1965, my wife and son went into the car, none came out. The
whale took 'em all... anyway, they delivered the bomb."
[they're
Irish]
[9:07
AM]
Orcas
are pro-UK?
"And
now, Shamu's rendition of The Cranberries 'Zombie'."
[9:13
AM] Mr. Blue:
Some
of the special effects are good, like the burning village in the
background and the orca reveling in the foreground
[9:27
AM]
Last night was "Underworld"...split up into like 3 chunks with
long pauses.
Heavily
flawed with minimal questioning, but still fun.
Also
Kate Beckinsale in shiny skin-tight "fighting" clothes
"We've
hunted the Lycans nearly to extinction over hundreds of years."
(me)
"Well you seriously suck at it then."
[9:36
AM] Mr. Brown.:
It
seems like they made lycans deadly to vamps in that movie
[9:37
AM]
They
did in the roleplaying game too.
Not
immortal but tend to beat the unliving crap out of vampires
Nice
balance.
[9:38
AM] Mr. Brown.:
Have
you watched the other films yet?
[9:38
AM]
Nope
[9:38
AM] Mr. Brown.:
They
go into more detail with a prequel
[9:38
AM]
Lord,
I hope so
[9:38
AM] Mr. Brown.:
Well,
as detailed as you can get with that series
lol
[9:39
AM]
They
appear to be in the same universe as Van Helsing, honestly
[9:40
AM] Mr. Brown.:
The
film?
[9:40
AM]
Yes
[9:40
AM] Mr. Brown.:
Yeah,
looks similar
[9:40
AM]
They
use the same bloodline tale
Use
the same centuries-long secret supernatural war trope
[9:40
AM] Mr. Brown.:
It's
kinda a cop out, I think, starting with that blood line tale
lol
[9:40
AM]
Kate
says they evolved to control the rage over the intervening centuries
[9:41
AM] Mr. Brown.:
The
idea of a hybrid was cool though
However
most of these stories make vamp blood toxic to lycan and lycan to
vamps
[9:43
AM]
Well...Underworld
does...
What
others?
[9:44
AM] Mr. Brown.:
I
swear i saw it in something else but can't think of what
But
it is two different curses
[9:47
AM]
Depends
on who you ask whether they are curses.
I
made a blend for a D&D adventure back in the early 90s. When I
got to writing the novel, I went back to folklore and just made the
guy a were-hyena
Were-hyenas
are already both
[9:48
AM] Mr. Blue:
The
last vampire movie i saw that i liked was A Girl Walks Home Alone At
Night
[9:48
AM]
That
an Israeli one?
[9:49
AM] Mr. Blue:
Farsi
[9:49
AM]
Ah
[9:49
AM] Mr. Blue:
But
filmed in LA
[9:51
AM]
Therianthropy
used to be something you were born with or used magic to get.
It
became a transferable disease at some point.
Maybe
it was Paramount's fault...might be older.
It
was "a gift" of the gods sometimes and not necessarily
anything bad either.
Vampires
developed over time too.
Used
to be some dead relative who just "came home" and wouldn't
leave. Naturally this was not to the benefit of anyone's
health.
But
now there's disease ones and psychic ones and incorporeal ones and non-transferable ones, and curse ones and half ones...
A
problem I have with Jackie Chan movies...
They
always leave me wanting a character who can do...that...
Parkour
+ Improvised weapon
[2:39
PM] Mr. Yellow:
*nod*
[2:52
PM]
It's
exciting on camera but a chore no one wants to go through in an RPG
[2:53
PM] Mr. Yellow:
True
[2:54
PM]
Like
mazes - I've warned aspiring/new GMs many times - "Never ever
EVER design a maze. They're fine to play on paper and they are
exciting and mysterious on film but your players will hate you for
it."
The
last person i saw try it was Mr. Green
(facepalm)
(yawn)
[3:16
PM] Mr. Yellow:
It
could work if you just make up everything along the way in which no
way they go is wrong just encounters you set up
Roll
some dice and pretend the encounters are random
[3:17
PM]
Right
That
was the lesson
Don't
make a literal maze.
You
can pretend they are in one...
But
make a map? never
It's
a pain drawing regular maps sometimes.
(as
players)
[3:28
PM] Mr. Yellow:
No
need for a map
[3:29
PM]
Not
usually.
[3:29
PM] Mr. Yellow:
Yes,
I have been in maze games and I have learned what I hate about them.
It
should just be like “Labyrinth” - fun around every corner.
[3:30
PM]
A
dandy example
A
series of encounters in an impossible-to-map “maze”.
[3:31
PM] Mr. Yellow:
yep
[3:31
PM]
Jareth's
ability to freely manipulate elements of it pretty much implies that
it's not really there, after a fashion
[3:31
PM] Mr. Yellow:
Hmm
Now
I want to do one like that.
I
may for when i am running 5th edition again
[3:32
PM]
It's
like going to a park and calling all the stuff there part of a maze
Sure...i
suppose if you want to map bushes and puddles and places you don't
want to walk.
But
you don't...you just walk around.
Jareth
owned a park with a lot of walls. Just wander and enjoy.
His
whole game wasn't even "get Toby back before time was up"
He
clipped off an hour effortlessly.
She
would have lasted as long as he wanted
He
just wanted to watch Sarah - the woman he desired - struggle...the
ultimate offer and decision was inevitable.
He
actually tried twice.
The
first was a soft sell, but he nearly had her at the masked ball too
So
you want to do a Jareth Labyrinth?
[3:38
PM] Mr. Yellow:
Yeah
It
may be how they make their way into the Plane of Shadows
[3:40
PM]
I
look forward to hearing how you'll do it. :)
[12:43
PM] Mr. Brown.:
I
hate this all-inclusive crap that is going on in the world
There
is a reason Nature chose to have natural selection
[12:43
PM]
Chose?
Got
an example?
[12:43
PM] Mr. Brown.:
When
something is not good at its job it does not do that
This
participation trophy bs and stuff like that
[12:44
PM]
Oh.
Some
of those cheer teams are more talented than their sports teams and their only job is to make the crowd shout.
[12:49
PM] Mr. Brown.:
Yes
When
they work hard and try to be the best to win competitions
You
would not include those bad ones in competition
[12:50
PM]
Well...that's
not a goal anywhere they take anyone who wants to participate.
[12:54
PM] Mr. Brown.:
If
my kid did a good job but lost, that is learning experience
They
don't need a trophy for being there
Its
like training a dog if they kinda did the trick and you give them a
treat we just taught it to always expect a treat for half-assed work
[12:55
PM]
That's
actually exactly how that doesn't work
[1:00
PM] Mr. Brown.:
I
know what peoples thoughts on this are. They are thinking they are
making things better by including all kids. Nothing to make fun of
and such.
But
there is a better way to teach tolerance
Sorry
you can't do this thing. Well let's find out what you can do well
[1:04
PM]
You could make an intensive effort to find out what the kids are talented
at before they try anything, for instance.
[1:06
PM] Mr. Brown.:
Right
And
if a kid really likes something that they are not good at then
explain to them you need to work hard and get better, then you can do
it.
[1:06
PM]
Unless
they are not capable and all that effort will never make them competitive.
[1:06
PM] Mr. Brown.:
if
i just let you on the team you're not learning anything
[1:08
PM]
I
can assure you they know they are no good at it. They want to try
things and belong in a group.
[1:10
PM] Mr. Brown.:
You
should never fully turn a kid away but don't reward them for being
bad at something
cause
they won't get better that way
[1:12
PM]
Clearly
you haven't spent enough time with the Scouts yet.
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