[8:10
AM]
"Forget
it, Jake. It's Gabetown."
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[8:12
AM] Mr. Blue:
Gabetown?
[8:14
AM]
Gabe
went off on a tear about "douchebag" as an insult
"It's
stupid! No such thing. Comes from German! Supposed
to be 'dummkopf' and people are too stupid to say it right!"
(Trey
and I looking at each other...completely baffled)
There
was an effort to explain politely that he's a complete moron...but he
maintained his position that “douche” isn't even a German word
and “there's no such thing as”...etc etc...etc..etc etc etc...
So...we
dropped it.
[8:17
AM] Mr. Blue:
Must
be infuriating/frustrating to be inside that head of his
[8:18
AM]
Well
there's plenty of room
[1:43
PM] Mr. Blue:
if
my mom sees something itneresting at Aldi's she'll pick it up for me.
she found some, like, stove-top meatpie thing in a tin from the UK
On
the back it says "ENJOY OUR MEATY PUDS!"
[1:43
PM]
Heh
Which
Aldi? I'm usually drawn by oddities
Was
there Tues
[1:45
PM] Mr. Blue:
i
think she goes to the one up the hill
[1:45
PM]
(Accepts
quest)
Didja
eat it?
[1:46
PM] Mr. Blue:
Not
yet
[2:07
PM]
Mmmm...can
of pie
[1:33
PM] Mr. Blue:
This
guy's pitching his book to me:
"I
found mathematical proof that Adam and Eve married into the human
race"
???
http://garytmayer.blogspot.com/
is his website he says
[1:37
PM] Mr. Brown.:
Looks
like he has all the answers on the Bible stuff
lol
Trying
to explain science and the Bible
[1:39
PM] Mr. Blue:
Yeah...
Nobody's tried that before... I'm sure he's breaking new ground
somehow
[1:39
PM] Mr. Brown.:
lol
God
created mankind at two different times in two different ways
[1:39
PM]
And
they all sucked, so He had Lilith start killing our kids but it was
too late
[1:39
PM] Mr. Brown.:
Almost
anybody that reads the Bible looks at the 6 days and says yeah those
are “God Days”
[1:41
PM]
Such
intense effort to prove stolen Sumerian mythology
[1:42
PM] Mr. Blue:
I
don't even care that much
Like
fine... The Bible creation story is real. You win.
[1:43
PM] Mr. Brown.:
There
are a lot of priests now that don't teach it so literally
Because
they learned science
[1:44
PM] Mr. Blue:
Because
nobody believes the literal interpretation anymore.
Religion
is like a business and you need customers. You can't sell something
that people won't buy
[1:46
PM]
Technically
I was raised on the stuff...but...time goes on I've watched the whole
institution collapsing.
It
has before in some ways.
Problem
for religion is, after each wave and recovery "the sheep"
are smarter.
Less
reliant on shepherds
They
can do things like read for themselves
It's
hard to make many believe the hyperbole
Many
have become well aware of the principle that something can be
impossible, but it can't be improbable.
They
are wise enough to take personal offense at the behavior and rules of
"heroes" who were far less educated than they are
[1:50
PM] Mr. Brown.:
Oh
man, he put it on graphs
There
is lots of real stuff in the Bible
They
have started connecting real history to it
Like
Goliath
Just
a big guy about 6'2”
A
giant then.
[1:53
PM] Mr. Blue:
So
kinda tall
If
David and Goliath was really just a kid vs. a tall guy, what's even
the point of putting it in there?
[1:54
PM] Mr. Brown.:
He
was the best warrior, so David defeated their best and stopped a war
[1:55
PM] Mr. Blue:
Neat
story. Not really 2,800 years old neat.
[1:55
PM] Mr. Brown.:
It
was best against best to decide a battle instead of everybody dying
Nobody
would fight him, but David said he would
[1:55
PM] Mr. Blue:
It's
like Rocky 4 basically
[1:56
PM] Mr. Brown.:
Steps
up, clocks him with a rock
So
smart small guy against large great fighter
[1:57
PM]
David
vs Goliath was a super easy win, it turns out
[1:57
PM] Mr. Brown.:
Yep
lol
[1:58
PM]
No.
Like I mean it's not even close to a miracle. Goliath had no
chance.
Recent
testing rates the impact of a quality sling bullet at about the
stopping
power of a .44 Magnum. Excellent – maybe better – effective
range for the sling too.
"Tell
us the lesson of Goliath versus David, dad!"
"You
mean 'Never bring a sword to a sling fight’?"
[2:00
PM] Mr. Brown.:
Ancient
Saturday Night Special
He
was staring down the barrel of a lamb sack sling
I
takes a bit to get good with one of those
I
have tried it before
[2:00
PM]
Nod.
I used to make them.
[2:03
PM]
So...Zardoz
[2:03
PM] Mr. Blue:
Yes
[2:04
PM]
Apart
from me having the perfect head for a Halloween costume practically
no one will get – I've even practiced the grimace when I noticed –
What was all that Holy Mountain vs Zardoz stuff?
Prodding.
[2:05
PM] Mr. Blue:
Cuz
i watched both
The
worst part of Zardoz is the weird beginning where Zardoz explains
everything.
It
seems too much like Criswell at the beginning of Plan 9 From Outer
Space
[2:06
PM]
Arthur's
floating head?
[2:06
PM] Mr. Blue:
Yeah
That
seemed like a moment where the studio was like "this thing's way
too confusing... add some exposition at the beginning"
[2:06
PM]
It
is confusing. Like on multiple levels, I mean.
You
can watch it once and "get it"
But
if you watch it a few times, it develops
I
don't know if that was something intentional or just luck
Arthur's
floating head, for instance
It's
also Zardoz's floating head
Here
is the mind – making it's confession and doubting it's own reality.
Here
is the brutal god it rules the world with
Together,
they are the inscrutable "God works in mysterious ways"
The
real head doesn't believe.
The
stone head is hard and real...and a complete fake.
What
a mess
The
live head is the active hand of the conspiracy to destroy Homo
Eternal.
How?
By
preaching human annihilation as the ideal of Brutals...at the same
time as running a eugenics program to create supermen.
Improve
humanity so they'll all die
Friend
said it...
(woman)
"What the Hell has Arthur been up to out there all these
years?"
(Friend)
"Stop complaining, he's the only one who wanted to do it.
LOOK at this! The man's an ARTIST!"
And
He
got caught as a conspirator and aged to nigh senility
[2:18
PM] Mr. Blue:
I
understood the floating head
It
just seemed cheap and out of place
[2:19
PM]
(touches
nose...points to Mr. Blue and giant floating head)
That
entire meditation scene made NO sense until later when you found out
Friend was one of the people trying to destroy the Tabernacle
They're
at dinner and someone says 'Let's share our thoughts' and Friend is
like 'F! I'm screwed!'
...meanwhile
every one of us “brutals” in the audience is looking at the
screen saying "What the Hell is going on???"
Lol
I
never looked up how badly it bombed, but i can't imagine it doing
well
There
is one part I wonder about and that wasn't really covered - What
happened to the other Vortexes?
I
assume they all failed together
But
where were they and why?
[2:29
PM] Mr. Blue:
I
didn't know there were others
It
had mixed reviews and made almost no money – now has a cult
following
I'm
not sure why they were mad about the possibility that Zed killed
Arthur.
He
didn't know any better and Arthur would regenerate anyway
It
also made no sense why the Brutals were using 200 year old weaponry
Almost
300
But
it's a good movie
More
coherent than The Holy Mountain
Charlotte
Rampling was such a babe at that time
[2:42
PM]
Oh,
yes. Rampling was a 12
[2:43
PM] Mr. Blue:
Boorman
was originally trying to make LOTR but the studio said they didn't
have the budget
So
that led him to do another fantasy-world in Zardoz
The
voice-operated search engine rings were cool, especially with the
technology we have nowadays
[2:46
PM]
Yes
Loved
those. have used them in gaming
[2:46
PM] Mr. Blue:
In
fact...Imagine that for an idea
Like
an Alexa or Echo Dot but it's a ring
[2:46
PM]
Gotta
add the "not permitted" responses
[2:46
PM] Mr. Blue:
Market
it as Zardoz or Vortex
It
can talk and also project onto any flat surface
[3:23
PM]
Or
Tabernacle
Back
to other Vortexes.
Zed
ended up in Vortex 4
His
first encounter with the ring was the "Haz" and "Nedz"
supplies lists for other Vortexes.
So
(not exact quotes) "Vortex 6 haz appelz, nedz weet. Vortex
2 haz weet, nedz wool."
And
it was displaying the text list wherever he pointed out the ring
Sounds
silly but I'm an anthy and was interested in the spelling oddities
Did
they just simplify English as part of the society, or was this far
enough in earth's future that it was like that when they retreated?
[3:39
PM] Mr. Blue:
Oh
yeah, I remember that now
I
think it'd just be the evolution of English in 200 years to when
society collapsed
[3:41
PM]
That's
reasonable.
We've
already been through several waves of natural and intentional
adjustment, after all.
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