[11:43
AM] Mr. Blue:
He
put a bunch of hearsay up about someone's daughter and the dad showed
up at his house and beat him up
[11:45
AM] Mr. Brown:
Yeah,
he was talking crap about (employee) on there too.
He
put a lot of people's private business on there
[11:47
AM] Mr. Blue:
I
know that the cops didn't charge the guy that beat him up
I
think that's one example of, like, small town justice
[11:47
AM] Mr. Brown:
Yeah
instead of pressing charges, it was “resolved”.
LOL
[11:48
AM]
"Fell
repeatedly. Accident victim delusional."
[11:48
AM] Mr. Blue:
LOL
Yes
Police
bias is probably a bad thing a lot of the time, but I think that was
a case where it was good
"This
guy's a POS and we're tired of dealing with him...but we have nothing
to pin on him that will fix the situation...so lets just say this was
self defense."
There
was a similar case where some rapist got obliterated by the victim's
father and the police were like "Ahhh... The curb did the
damage..."
[12:19
PM]
[12:20
PM] Mr. Blue:
Heh
"We're
just a small rural town. We don't take kindly to former troops
around here."
Which
seemed like a weird narrative... small town people deify vets
"Take
yer camo and patriotism on down the road!"
[12:22
PM]
Heh
[12:23
PM] Mr. Brown:
Well
the war they are using in the movie, they thought they were all baby
killers and such
[12:23
PM]
(Realistic
'First Blood') "Hey. You ok, man? Need a coffee and something to eat? Where'd you tour?"
[12:24
PM] Mr. Blue:
I
assume in the book he was more off - like dirtier, or more obviously
mentally ill
[12:24
PM] Mr. Brown:
Maybe
a lot more tattered
[12:25
PM]
Sounds
like we need to go look
[12:25
PM] Mr. Blue:
Weird...
Kentucky, not the Pacific Northwest, and both Rambo and Teasle die
[12:28
PM] Mr. Brown:
Yeah,
but that's not good for movies
It
looks like he was taken to the edge of the city more than once so
that prompted arrest
In
the movie they can't really do that three times
So
they sped it up. Did it once then arrested him
[12:30
PM] Mr. Blue:
Yeah
Book
was released in 1972... much closer to the Vietnam War. By 1982
nobody cared.
[12:30]
(considers age differences) Uh... The war was still going on in '72. I wouldn't say only nine years after we were out that "nobody cared".
[12:30
PM] Mr. Brown:
So
I can see this version as they saw him only as a drifter at first and
didn't want that in their town
[12:31
PM]
"First
Bum"
[12:31
PM] Mr. Blue:
“Cruising”
is a weird ass movie
In
order for a cop to track down a gay killer... he has to... become gay
himself?
[12:38
PM]
I
never knew that. What a stupid premise.
[12:39
PM] Mr. Blue:
That's
how I recall it at least
There's
someone going around killing gay men in NYC... so they find a cop
that fits the appearance of all the victims and they tell him to go
undercover and start dressing and acting gay and hanging around
leather bars and glory holes and such in the hopes the killer tries
to kill him
If
the NYC police are looking for someone that's killing peoples' pets,
would the detective have to become a dog?
[12:50
PM]
(reads
some wiki)
So,
to me, "Cruising'" under these terms is – "We want
to film a serial murder mystery that takes place in the gay
community...with the caveat that we'd like people to go see it."
[12:51
PM] Mr. Blue:
Yes
[12:52
PM]
(Trailer
voiceover guy) "Al Pacino is BACK as an ultra macho, straight,
definitely not gay, man's man COP who is hanging out at gay clubs but
is totally in disguise and isn't gay!"
[12:52
PM] Mr. Brown:
Totally
[12:53
PM] Mr. Blue:
It
was also edited strangely so a lot of the movie is really ambiguous.
Like,
it's hinted at that he's becoming gay...but it's not really shown
explicitly...and you're not sure if he was already gay to begin with.
Maybe?
[12:53
PM]
"Starring
Karen Allen as his girlfriend, who he bangs – straightly –
often."
[12:53
PM] Mr. Brown:
(Captain)
"Hey. We need you to go undercover at these "Gay"
bars...you match the target characteristics the killer is going for.
Will you do it?"
(Jumps
up down, clapping) "Yes! Yes I will! I can do it!"
[12:54
PM]
"OooOOOooo!"
[12:55
PM] Mr. Blue:
There
are times when it seems to hint that Pacino himself is the killer, or
maybe that he's doing some of the killing too.
[12:55
PM]
Perfect
cover
[12:55
PM] Mr. Brown:
Sounds
like we need some extra scenes then
[12:55
PM]
(Detective Burns)
"You can tell the killing was done by a gay guy who was in this
closet...so I'm coming out. Not OUT...I mean I'm moving...that kind
of out. Or that I was 'in the closet' because I wasn't. I was just
standing in this closet looking at clues. Not IN the closet gay.
I'm just coming out into the apartment, not 'out of the closet' gay
out. But...you know...you can tell the
killer was gay though, right? I mean it's obvious the killer
is gay to all you guys, right? Because we're detectives. Doesn't
take nothing special to just look at...at...the crime scene
and see that the killer is a gay guy. Not that I know anything about
gay guys and what they do, but just by looking...right? Uh. You see
the gazongas on the new babe in records? Woo hoo! You know me and
babes...and gazongas. Nothing I like more than having sex with women, am I
right? Can't get enough of that! Anyway...I'm coming out -
LEAVING."
[12:56
PM] Mr. Blue:
It's
a movie that probably needed a director's cut, but I guess the cut
scenes were lost forever
[12:56
PM] Mr. Brown:
That
sucks
Because
you know seeing it in its full glory would probably be better
I
hate when people get edit happy
[12:58
PM]
On
the reverse...I also hate when they stay edit sad
*cough...Peter
Jackson Hobbit...cough*
[12:58
PM] Mr. Brown:
So
I guess the real question would be: do any actual gay people watch
this film? Based on this article, probably not.
[2:24
PM] Mr. Brown:
Daily
Mail
That
is one heck of a title for an article
LOL
[2:24
PM]
Pot-belly
penis
[2:24
PM] Mr. Blue:
Imagine
if you gained weight and it all went there instead of your stomach or
butt
[2:25
PM] Ms. Rose:
Eww.
[2:25
PM] Mr. Brown:
Men
should consider - is it good enough to do the job? If so, then stop
right there.
[2:26
PM]
"It's
Nature's way of saying you aren't healthy enough for kids"
[2:26
PM] Mr. Blue:
I
know that "size" is kind of a relative thing depending on
the culture.
Like
those Greek statues aren't well endowed because small *was* well
endowed for them.
[2:27
PM] Mr. Brown:
Also certain sizes would be not good for moving around
[2:27
PM] Mr. Blue:
Probably
not
[2:27
PM]
Hehe
[2:27
PM] Mr. Blue:
Get
snagged on jagger bushes and whatnot
If
the prehistoric “Venus” figures were any indication, very large
and very curvy was the ideal for like, 20,000 years as far as women go.
[2:30
PM]
A
conclusion about on-screen nudity on some site I read about year ago:
(RE
lack of male nudity in TV and film) "In most situations, female
nudity is considered fine but it turns out a lot of people don't like
male anatomy, which is too variable between relaxed and 'angry'
states, and from man to man."
"This
can cause feelings of inadequacy or embarrassment or any of a whole
slew of other responses from both sexes."
[2:35
PM] Mr. Blue:
Heh
One
is certainly a little easier on the eyes than the other
Even
the “ideal male physique” has feminine qualities
If
you look at fitness models and bodybuilders, what are large pectorals
except just the male version of nice boobs?
[2:37
PM] Mr. Brown:
Hard
boobs
[2:38
PM] Mr. Blue:
The
pecs are a useless muscle. It's a secondary sexual characteristic.
Maybe
it was worthwhile when we were crawling around on all fours
There
are videos for men on YouTube - "How to get an ass-chest"
[2:50
PM]
Honestly,
I think the “study” my paraphrase came from was probably of
prudish ex-faux-Victorian Americans.
Despite
so called "Victorian" prudishness, it didn't actually exist
in England
The
people of the US during that period, however, were demented
(Sorry...have
to leave some unedited Mr. Brown in here – Mr. Silver)
[2:58
PM] Mr. Brown:
I
have noticed that in nature Size of your man hood goes along with how
hard to reach the end zone
even
in animals
[3:17
PM]
(blinks
... ) What?
[3:23
PM] Mr. Brown:
I
was meaning like how walruses and wales have big you know whats cause
they need it like that to reach
[3:25
PM] Ms. Rose:
Glad
I came in today, just for this conversation! (rofl)
[3:27
PM] Mr. Brown:
Yep
Big
booty women
biger
youknow what
lol
HaHAHAH
[3:33
PM]
I'd
just like to cite one of my Physical Anthropology professors who
broached this subject and lamented the penis of the poor gorilla.
"You'd
think a hulking thing like that would have something
showier...but...(pinches fingers together) 2 inches...no kidding.
Poor guys."
[3:34
PM] Mr. Brown:
Gorrilas
are low to the ground though.
[3:36
PM]
In
the gutter, one might say.
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