375 - Mr. Blue Rants On Refugees, and Yet Another Look At "One True" Attitudes

[8:52 AM] Mr. Brown:

The war on refuges

Bring them in or don't?

[8:53 AM] Mr. Silver:

Like wetlands?

;-P

[8:53 AM] Mr. Brown:

I spelled that wrong

[8:53 AM] Mr. Blue:

I wonder why they'd even wanna come here.

"Wanna come to the US?  90% of Americans don't want you."

[8:53 AM] Mr. Brown:

They just don't want to be killed, so anywhere that has less of a chance of that happening is appealing.

[8:54 AM] Mr. Blue:

They can go to Turkey, Jordan, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, Bahrain, etc.

[8:54 AM] Mr. Brown:

I guess the issue is ISIS can use refugee admissions as a Trojan horse

I'm all for helping people. The issue is you don't know who the enemy is in this one

[8:56 AM] Mr. Blue:

"Are you a terrorist?" □  Yes □  No

[8:56 AM] Mr. Brown:

Also we have enough issues trying to figure out who over here is already affiliated with them

[8:56 AM] Mr. Blue:

Right, same with Europe

They had to create whole new government departments just to handle the Muslims that they already have

And again, not to belabor the point - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_and_crime#Denmark

Even if they aren't connected to ISIS, they'll probably bring crime.

[8:57 AM] Mr. Brown:

Truthfully, too, we are at a conflict because America was built on immigration.

[8:59 AM] Mr. Blue:

At what point do we say we're full?

I see no conflict there

[8:59 AM] Mr. Brown:

True

[8:59 AM] Mr. Blue:

300+ million people... close the doors

[8:59 AM] Mr. Brown:

We are at capacity

[9:01 AM] Mr. Blue:

Read those numbers in that link

It's crazy

They can't assimilate

I don't know why, but that's not the west's problem to figure out

[9:03 AM] Mr. Silver:

We just need to keep them labeled and concentrate them.  Perhaps in camps.

(now that's an old chat game...hehe)

[9:05 AM] Mr. Blue:

I think the issue is letting in too many at once... they cluster together and don't assimilate.

Too many of any group from a backwards part of the world bringing their archaic values with them. They stay together and so don't feel they need to change.

It's pretty short sighted of all involved

Most politicians don't care about the refugees. They want to import voters + cheap manual labor

But lets say you let in a bunch of refugees and they constitute a new minority population in a country...and that country faces some trouble. Whether it's economic or political or crime trouble. Who are the natives going to take their anger out on?  The majority?

See: “Jews in Europe over the last 2000 years”

If you cared about the refugees, you wouldn't want them becoming a minority in any society that has a clear history of taking their anger out on minorities

If women think rape culture is prevalent now, just wait until there's a bunch of 3rd worlders flooding every city.

Sweden is now #2 in rapes behind Lesotho, in Africa

Rapes per capita

[9:38 AM] Mr. Brown:

It still is a wonder why ISIS continues to attack places that are not their home.

[9:39 AM] Mr. Silver:

Because they are trying to take over the world in the name of Islam...as instructed.

There's a "One True" faith problem here.

[9:39 AM] Mr. Brown:

They are attacking everyone: Muslims, Jews, and Christians

[9:41 AM] Mr. Silver:

Apostates and non-muslims, you mean. Well, they are the enemies of the “One True”, you see.

Actually, Christians who surrender are to be left alone...it's in the One True book.

Infidel in-name-only Muslims?  Kill 'em all. 

And since that is EVERYONE who doesn't join ISIS and acknowledge the caliphate...

[9:45 AM] Mr. Blue:

Technically they aren't distorting their religion, they're just following it literally.

Same with some Christians

[9:47 AM] Mr. Silver:

That's why I said the best option is to invalidate the prophesy.

(Earlier conversation. Not sure it ended up in the blog or not. – Mr. Silver)

Their entire fanaticism is based on the glorious return of the caliphate.

And there's only a certain number of caliphs prophesied before the Apocalypse

Fight religion with religion.

If the hand of God can't stop caliphs from getting killed off...they are frauds.

And all of the followers are dupes and apostates who have to be killed. 

ISIS implodes.

"Dear ISIS...your most recent dead caliph everyone swore allegiance to (see photo) was another fraud.  Please Koran-literally handle your internal mistakes so you don't have to go to Hell.  Thank you."

[9:56 AM] Mr. Blue:

Do western countries support and fund Israel for any reason other than Biblical?

Because a new kingdom in Jerusalem is one of the messianic prophecies

[9:58 AM] Mr. Brown:

Well we are a bunch of stupid humans seeing these visions from GOD, so how do we interpret them?

[9:58 AM] Mr. Blue:

As a mental illness

I’m glad Christians and Muslims hate each other, because if they ganged up on the true apostates, like agnostics like me, we'd be in real trouble

Christians and Muslims have a lot more in common than Christians and agnostics/atheists

[9:59 AM] Mr. Brown:

LOL

[9:59 AM] Mr. Silver:

We wouldn't have much of a modern society without those mental illnesses.

Its rather hard to envision how we would have turned out.

[10:00 AM] Mr. Blue:

Think of how violent Christianity can be, and has been, in its history. And it was founded by a peace-loving hippy.  Now imagine what a religion founded by a literalist polygamous warlord would be like. That's Islam

[10:01 AM] Mr. Brown:

Yes, all religions have been perverted

[10:01 AM] Mr. Blue:

But some more so than others

[10:01 AM] Mr. Brown:

Yep

[10:01 AM] Mr. Blue:

Or some lead more directly to perversion/violence

[10:01 AM] Mr. Silver:

Muhammad was a fraud. It's all clear if you look

(Not going over that again...check the older posts. - Mr. Silver)

[10:01 AM] Mr. Brown:

So who came first? Jesus or Muhammad?

[10:02 AM] Mr. Silver:

Jesus

[10:02 AM] Mr. Brown:

So Muhammad was a copy cat

[10:02 AM] Mr. Silver:

Jesus is the #2 man in Islam

Virgin birth, second coming...all literal truth

[10:02 AM] Mr. Blue:

Yes, Islam believes in Jesus

[10:03 AM] Mr. Silver:

But Big M was the restorer of the “One True” faith of Abraham

[10:03 AM] Mr. Blue:

Jesus is just a prophet, not the son of God

Jesus was a fraud too, technically

The One True religion in that line of tradition is Judaism

LOL

[10:03 AM] Mr. Silver:

Judaism didn't just happen. That line of tradition isn't nearly as clean in origin as you might think.

[10:04 AM] Mr. Brown:

He took the right ideas and tried to give them to the people

[10:04 AM] Mr. Blue:

Who?

[10:04 AM] Mr. Brown:

Jesus

Like you need to love everyone and trying to promote peace.

[10:04 AM] Mr. Blue:

But he claimed to be the son of God.

And then didn't fulfill the prophecies he was supposed to, and hence was a false prophet, and so a false messiah

[10:05 AM] Mr. Silver:

This is why I started looking into shamanism...heh

[10:08 AM] Mr. Blue:

I mean, you're saying "Jesus did some good things and was a nice guy and promoted peace." That's all fine. But he didn't match up with what was predicted would happen in the Old Testament, and he made claims in the New Testament that, in the end, he didn't back up.

So Jesus is technically a false messiah.

Therefore you're going to Hell for following a false messiah

So at least I’ll have some company.

[10:15 AM] Mr. Silver:

Hehe

[10:17 AM] Mr. Blue:

Technically since I’m not following a false messiah I might have a better shot at Heaven than you, Mr. Brown.

I’ll send you a postcard

[10:17 AM] Mr. Brown:

I’ll admit I sin all the time, including not reading the Bible all the time

[10:18 AM] Mr. Silver:

Since when is not reading the Bible all the time a sin?

The illiterate go to Hell?

That would be the majority of Christians at any chosen time throughout most of history.

[10:18 AM] Ms. Rose:

*makes mental note that Mr. Blue owes me a postcard from Hell, for my collection*

[10:19 AM] Mr. Silver:

"Please excuse the scorching"

"Having a terrible time.  My flame pit circled in pic on front!  Wish the following people were here: "

[10:20 AM] Ms. Rose:

LOL

[10:28 AM] Mr. Brown:

I went bowling last night realized I’m really out of practice

[10:31 AM] Mr. Silver:

Going to Hell then.

For the bowling thing, not the Bible reading thing or trying to change the subject.

[10:32 AM] Mr. Brown:

Hand and arm hurt today

[10:33 AM] Mr. Blue:

You'll have plenty of time to practice when you're burning for all of eternity

[10:35 AM] Mr. Silver:

(The Devil) "And this is your lane, Mr. Brown.  (Sizes up) I'd say about a 240 pound 500 degree F ball for you.  You just need to play til you get a perfect 301 score and I'll send you upstairs."

"Ok, that's not so bad. Wait...300 and 1?"

"Mmm hmm...enjoy!"

[10:37 AM] Mr. Brown:

I like how everything in space is a mega structure

[10:38 AM] Mr. Blue:

Why are you changing the subject of you going to Hell

That's pretty serious. You should be concerned

[10:43 AM] Mr. Brown:

Because its not fully my decision if I go there

All I can do is try to be good and account for the wrong things I do

[10:45 AM] Mr. Silver:

In all honesty, Mr. Brown, you should join the very reasonable sect that says all of mankind is already forgiven.

Infinite Son of God.  Infinite sacrifice to cleanse the world...done