Wednesday, January 1, 2020

582 - Is It Really Robbery If You Stole It To Put It Back?, and Turns Out We've Been Having Annual Bigfoot Festivals For Millennia

[12:17 PM]  Mr. Blue: 
I'm guessing most hidden pirate treasure was plundered before all the pirates that knew about it even died
Either by the pirates or their friends or someone they sold the info to
[12:43 PM] 
I know I wouldn't have left it sitting
Oak Island was probably emptied for the most part in the early 1700s
[12:46 PM]  Mr. Blue: 
i remember reading how when they "discovered" the tombs in the pyramids and there was nothing left except the gear the looters left behind, which itself had become historically significant
[12:51 PM] 
I always found that interesting for a different reason.
[12:59 PM]  Mr. Blue: 
What's that?
[1:39 PM] 
Considering what it takes to get in to most of those places...and the really major ones having their own priesthoods and funerary temples and basically towns of devotees.
How many of those impregnable piles were emptied before they were even sealed up?
[1:40 PM]  Mr. Blue: 
yes
[1:40 PM] 
"Leave some mallets and chisels around."
Those granite drop walls alone. You'd basically have to chip through them without anyone noticing for...weeks?
Months?
With copper tools?
In the dark?
Breathing old carbon dioxide air, or with a lamp breathing carbon monoxide?
There are either side doors no one ever found or talked about
Or all that stuff was paraded around for show.
And the latter is the 99.99% more likely option since we've found no side doors.
Either the treasure never went in at all, or was brought right on back out after the official witnesses were satisfied.
We never find any un-looted tombs because the priests were recycling it
[1:55 PM]  Mr. Blue: 
That would be interesting
And they could claim the gods are rewarding them with the loot
[1:56 PM] 
"The Pharaoh is dead.  Get out the ol' "eternity loot" kit."
Or
Ok, show is over, mourners are gone.  Get it all back out.”
"What if someone goes to look?  What if we get caught?"
"Like if the family breaks in to check? Leave some mallets and chisels around."
Oh, I don't think the priests were stealing the stuff to keep
Being exceptionally intelligent people with a magical point of view, I'm guessing they knew full well the drawings on the walls were more than enough to satisfy the soul's needs in the afterlife
...because they would be...
So make it look like they were robbed, put the stuff back in storage or circulation, or give the materials to artisans to make new stuff, and the palace isn't suddenly poor every time some pharaoh dies.
Gold wasn't even valuable to them, if I recall correctly.
Not the same way
Was Tut's tomb a mistake?
Reports were that it was partially looted
Why partially?
Did some young go-getter acolyte close up the inner chamber before they could stop him? 
[2:30 PM]  Mr. Blue: 
Maybe the tradition was somehow lost temporarily
Something close-guarded Tut and his handlers weren't aware of it
[2:36 PM] 
Check out that haul that the tomb robbers missed out on! Wow!
[2:40 PM]  Mr. Blue: 
"tunnels built by looters"
[2:41 PM] 
Ever see "L.A. Story"?
[2:41 PM]  Mr. Blue: 
no
[2:41 PM] 
There was a scene of people going out for the night queued up at an ATM to get cash.  There was a second queue. 
"Good evening, I'll be your mugger for the evening."
"Oh hi!  Just a moment."
"Take your time sir." 
"Here you go." 
"Thank you sir.  Have a nice night."
"You too!"
I'm just picturing the line of treasure bearers and the second line of tomb robbers
"Ok, everything is packed in!"
"Thanks your Eminence.  Ra bless you."
"No problem.  (winks, whispers) Best stuff not on the "return" list is on the left."
(winks back, looks around at line furtively) "Great...see you next burial, eh?"
[2:56 PM]  Mr. Blue: 
heheh



[8:15 AM]  Mr. Blue: 
morning
[8:22 AM] 
(reads)
I pronounced it right...nice
Bulgaria is very rural; it has a weird, quirky, post-Soviet charm,” Klein says. (Although socialist Bulgaria was a primary ally of the U.S.S.R., it was never a Soviet state itself.) “The people are incredibly friendly...because it was never a Soviet state.”
[8:29 AM]  Mr. Blue: 
heh
so Soviet State folks are unfriendly?
[8:29 AM] 
heh
I added the zinger at the end
[8:30 AM]  Mr. Blue: 
ahhh
Bulgaria is weird... one of those tug-of-war regions that were constantly fought over by Turks, Austro-Hungarians, soviets
[8:30 AM] 
You dressed up for the festival?"
"What festival?"
[8:30 AM]  Mr. Blue: 
lol
"dress for the job you want."
[8:31 AM] 
17 and 18 are great!
I wonder about "Time Bandits" looking at some of these
[8:33 AM]  Mr. Blue: 
ah yeah
to me they remind me of Ewoks
They probably would've fared better against the Ottomans if they posted the Kukeri with the 6 foot heads at their borders
[8:38 AM] 
heh
"We got 10 head shots on it, we swear sir, and it kept charging!"
hmmm
Where's Mr. Brown when you need him...There's a thing going on in my head he'd like.
sec
Anthropology...folklore...something is starting to click...
Why bells, and why so frequently a stick?
Look at the bells they use. 
Totally impractical. 
No farm animal could wear them and they are a huge waste of metal
...Next...
Bells are not intrinsically scary...like...ever.
I mean unless it's a ghost sound in your house.  Even the Tinkerbell dings in my house didn't spook Mrs. Silver and she can be an easy spook.
There's easier, less labor and material expensive, noisemakers to make
Why bells?
...Switch direction...
These bogeys are supposed to be scary, to fend off the demons of the world. 
These bogeys are deep seated in nature, and have become associated with vitality.
Proposition:
They've been bastardized over the centuries, but these costumes look and sound as close as traditional people could make them “accurately” look and sound....
Big, hairy, club-wielding forces of nature who are easiest seen in the winter and can make clunking noises. 
They're Eurasian giants and people have been talking about them, drawing them, and having festivals starring them thousands of years.
[9:23 AM]  Mr. Brown: 
And they eat spam
[9:23 AM] 
Well it's tasty
[9:23 AM]  Mr. Brown: 
spam spam spam eggs and spam
[9:26 AM] 
I didn't think about the bells thing til this morning with Mrs. Silver talking about the metal clunking before the roar in North Carolina, and me telling a Bigfoot researcher about it and him saying the metal clunks are starting to come out in the reports as a noise witnesses heard but didn't associate with their encounter.
[9:38 AM]  Mr. Brown: 
Wild Men
That been a thing in Native American culture too
The shamans out doing their thing covered in fur and moss
lol
[9:39 AM] 
Well yes, and considering they would have had to come to the new world the same way from Asia...
My point is, cultures are packed with huge hairy humanoids
[9:40 AM]  Mr. Brown: 
yep
[9:41 AM] 
And they carry clubs or branches and can make what comes off as metallic clunking sounds
Australian aborigines spent 50000 years separated.  They have giants too.
[9:42 AM]  Mr. Blue: 
Australopithecus?
Prehistoric memories that stayed in tradition?
Like dragons
[9:46 AM] 
These are unusual stone tools archaeologists have found.
hehe
The one by the guy's hand is normal
[9:48 AM]  Mr. Blue: 
Giant tools to kill giant animals
[9:48 AM]
Despite the common name “hand axe”, they are butchering tools – they are totally impractical for hunting or fighting.  And also useless for butchering at that size unless you, yourself, are gigantic.
[9:48 AM]  Mr. Blue:
Status symbol stuff... Like the sports car of the stone age.
[9:50 AM]
"Hey babe.  Like the huge hand axe?  Chicks dig giant hand axes."
Considering they stopped using them sometime after 300,000 BC and there's no cultural hints to support any social value to objects for like another 250,000 more years...no...
Want another funny cultural link out of the folklore of old Europe?
Oral and written tradition keeps claiming that "giants" placed megaliths and built stoneworks.  
Even medieval tales have saints conquering the local giant/ogre and having it help build the local church.
[9:51 AM]  Mr. Blue: 
Acromegaly was probably a thing
[9:51 AM] 
Could be
Doesn't seem to make your grow hair though.
People aren't just plain stupid about their local world though.  They know what is human and what isn't, really.
Easily fooled?  Perhaps.
And that's a pretty powerful tool for the local smart guy, like a shaman
[9:57 AM]  Mr. Blue: 
I'm just saying any reference to wild men or giants in history was just Bulgarian explorers in kikuri costumes.
No, I'm not serious
[9:58 AM] 
lol
(Bulgarian kikuri) "I'm so damned lost.  I can't see a thing in this costume.  Excuse me? Where is the festival!  WAIT!  PUT THE TOOLS DOWN!  STOP SCREAMING!  (flees into woods)"

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