Thursday, July 4, 2019

541 - Taking The Booze Cure, and "A Study In Sentinelese"

[3:16 PM]  Mr. Brown.: 
you sound like you have The Cold, Mr. Blue
lol
[3:16 PM]  Mr. Blue: 
I did all last week and weekend
[3:16 PM]  Mr. Brown.: 
I'm on a 14 day run of antibiotics
that's why i feel better now
[3:17 PM]  Mr. Blue: 
when i got home Friday until i came into work yesterday morning i never left the house
that was probably the worst cold i ever had
day 1-4 was a sore throat, progressively worse, then day 5-8 was headache, stuffed sinuses, occasional cough and sneeze
sore throat first *then* cough seemed almost like cheating to me
[3:35 PM]  Mr. Brown.: 
I had runny nose, little congestion, little cough
was not that bad, started feeling better
then bam!
full-on chest pressure, head pressure, and no energy
[3:36 PM]  Mr. Blue: 
every time I'd sneeze I'd get this sharp pain in both my shoulders and 1 of my legs
[3:38 PM] 
(commercial Doctor) "Haha!  We've all been there like Mr. A and Mr. B, right?  Do YOU have these symptoms too?  Try new Cold: Don't Care!  Just one full glass and a day in bed and you won't care!"
(pop under "Cold: Don't Care contains 130 Proof whiskey.  Do not drive or attempt to move.")
(Doctor)  "Treat your symptoms the way our forefathers did - Just ‘Don't Care’."
[3:38 PM]  Mr. Brown.: 
LOL
I had black velvet, apple pie moonshine, blackberry moonshine, and maple whiskey
on Saturday



[9:55 AM]  Mr. Brown.: 
you guys ever read about these people https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sentinelese
[9:56 AM]  Mr. Blue: 
yes
[9:56 AM]  Mr. Brown.: 
Amazing if it is true they don't know how to make fire yet
[9:58 AM] 
(Finally make contact...shake hands...chief takes off mask and it's Norm McDonald)  "It's me!  Hehe!  Really got you with the arrows huh?"
[9:58 AM]  Mr. Brown.: 
HAHAHA :D
[9:59 AM] 
"You should have seen your faces.  And that no fire thing in the papers?  What a laugh, huh?  Let me introduce you to everyone."
[9:59 AM]  Mr. Blue: 
"British policy was to take prisoners, treat them well and give them gifts, and release them back into the tribe"
>>The elderly couple became ill and died
"Here's those prisoners we took.. sorry there's a lot fewer than before."
[10:00 AM]  Mr. Brown.: 
I was watching a show and it talked about the ship that got stranded there due to a storm and how they called for a weapons drop 'cause the tribesmen were moving out to to attack it
Instead they showed up and took all the crew
[10:03 AM]  Mr. Blue: 
it's weird that they look black-African but they're off the coast of like, Thailand
[10:04 AM]  Mr. Brown.: 
lol
I think they said they believe they are direct descendants of first humans in Africa
Which would explain it
[10:04 AM]  Mr. Blue: 
aren't we all?
I think they're a remnant of the migrations that went across southern Asia and into Australia
[10:35 AM]  Mr. Brown.: 
most likely
Like when everything was one land mass or on boat?
[10:36 AM]  Mr. Blue: 
Humans weren't around when everything was one land mass
But there were intermittent land bridges that made travel easier
But eventually they'd need to get in a boat
[10:41 AM]  Mr. Brown.: 
looking at a map seems like they are not too far from mainland
Reading some of these encounters it sounds like they are not always out for blood though. They just don't want anybody that is not them there.
They shot non headed arrows at some
[10:52 AM]  Mr. Blue: 
They must have some sort of mythology that keeps them on that island
Because even the nearby islands are groups that are similar to them in appearance and language
Too bad we don't have an anthropologist in this chat that can drop in with some more knowledge
[10:54 AM]  Mr. Brown.: 
lol
there is probably something great in the middle of that island
[10:55 AM]  Mr. Blue: 
It's pretty damned big, and looks to be almost completely surrounded by a reef
And looks to be entirely forested as well
Wiki says they're genetically related to "south Asians" but i think that'd mean Indians, not Thai/Burmese that they're closer to
Of course Indians look different depending on where you are in India
[12:03 PM] 
Anthropologist?
[12:04 PM]  Mr. Blue: 
Aren't you one?
[12:04 PM] 
Yes, I agree.  There's little that would compel humans to defy contact like that other than superstition
My guess is that they DID have contact in the unknown past and it went badly
So they are fortified on their island away from whatever "demons" they were, and to venture out is “certain death”.
[12:05 PM]  Mr. Brown.: 
Men from the sea are demons
[12:06 PM] 
Yes...men from the sea are demons
[12:06 PM]  Mr. Brown.: 
The one thing i read was we brought them a pig. They killed it and buried it
[12:06 PM] 
It was a monster from outside
[12:07 PM]  Mr. Blue: 
Yeah, they wouldn't know to eat it
[12:07 PM]  Mr. Brown.: 
right
[12:07 PM] 
I highly doubt they'd have any difficulty telling it was edible. No, it takes religion to put that kinda fear into people. Bad people put a weird thing on the island to trick/tempt/attack them.
[12:07 PM]  Mr. Brown.: 
People bring fish to them. They take them because they know what that is
So who was the bright bulb to think “lets take them a pig”. hehe
[12:08 PM] 
I wonder if they escaped to there. Used to live somewhere else and bugged out.
[12:08 PM]  Mr. Blue: 
or were shunned to there
Maybe they were mainlanders (or on the main Andaman islands) and the locals were like - "these people are nuts"
Maybe it was mutual
They're related to the other folks on the neighboring islands
[12:09 PM]  Mr. Brown.: 
Buncha slaves?
Shipwrecked?
[12:11 PM] 
If they were anything as recent as those theories, they'd have fire
[12:11 PM]  Mr. Blue: 
They had a connection to them at some point
You'd have to have superstition on both sides
The Sentinelese to not leave, and repel foreigners. The groups on the mainland have a superstition of avoiding the island
[12:16 PM] 
I would think after enough people went to check the place out and never came home, they decided the island was bad news
This is no doubt a good example of one of those "White Explorer Discovery By White Explorer" situations I love so much.
"Astonishing! We're discovered a tribe of isolated people - completely unknown...except by all the native people around who have been making contact with them and talking about them for 30000 years.  But they're merely natives, you know."
[12:30 PM]  Mr. Blue: 
heh
Like when a new species of something is "discovered"
And it was only discovered because it was so well known to the locals they didn't even think to mention or point it out to anyone. What they call "discovering" is just scientifically describing, cataloging, etc.
[12:35 PM]  Mr. Brown.: 
Tons of animals on that island that are undiscovered (by whites)
lol
I'm sure at some point we will get on the island and they will be welcoming
Then the island will be stripped of all it's resources
They have to be getting plenty of trash out there from the ocean
[12:38 PM]  Mr. Blue: 
yeah
[12:39 PM]  Mr. Brown.: 
probably why they accepted the pots and pans people took them
[12:39 PM]  Mr. Blue: 
"oh more trash, thanks"
Their language is markedly different from even the other languages on the Andamans,[8] which suggests that they have remained uncontacted for thousands of years
if that's the case and there's only a few hundred of them they're probably also the most inbred people of the world
[12:53 PM]  Mr. Brown.: 
Yeah
Maybe that is why we cannot contact them
lol
[1:06 PM] 
They're remnants of the PREVIOUS 'Big Oops' as described in the Indian Vedas.
What's Bengali for "Tomorrowmorrow Land" and "Captain Walker"?
[1:08 PM]  Mr. Brown.: 
I'm guessing if a single person was stranded there, they may not kill him.
(we'll save the idiot missionary's tale for it's proper place in the timeline – Mr. Silver)
I wonder about Amazon tribes that are isolated
did they intermingle?
[1:14 PM]  Mr. Blue: 
if they're completely uncontacted they'd have to inbreed
maybe they have contact with other uncontacted tribes
[1:14 PM]  Mr. Brown.: 
I mean how much inbreeding before a population dies out?
[1:20 PM]
Um...as much as you want. Inbreeding isn't a terminal situation.
A network of uncontacted peoples!
They're like the Fremen
Exist in vast numbers all over the Earth and no one knows where they hide
[1:26 PM]  Mr. Brown.: 
I bet they live underground
That's why we see no fire
[1:26 PM]
Yes...they keep all the smoke underground...
[1:32 PM]  Mr. Blue: 
We should just bulldoze the place
Why should they have it any easier than past natives?
[1:34 PM] 
heh
"We offer you freedom through abuse.  Later generations will thank us."
[1:36 PM]  Mr. Blue: 
"Look we have a system - and it wouldn't be fair to the other natives if we let you off."
[1:39 PM] 
"Do you have any taboos besides outside contact we can force you to do?"
"Oh, and (looks at paper)...AH!  Yes.  If you have any gold or gems we'll want all of it."
[2:31 PM]  Mr. Brown.: 
We should just try to find a sponsor to send a bot to that island
[3:00 PM] 
Yes, this place would be a dandy location for someone like NASA to drop a Xenthropology probe.  
It's kinda perfect for that
Complex culture.  Have to make it mobile and durable.
Make it something they'd be interested in keeping
Try communication experiments or maybe just watch and listen.

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