516 - Screwed By Politics

[2:44 PM]  Mr. Blue: 

hey Mr. Silver what's the name of that spiral thing that is at an angle and lifts water up

it's called like da Vinci's water elevator or Archimedes' wheel or something

[2:46 PM] 

Archimedes Screw

[2:47 PM]  Mr. Blue: 

that's it

[2:47 PM] 

"Man...that Vinny guy is a total Archimedes Screw."

"Tell me abboudit...sheesh."

(its always sounded like an insult to me since I was a kid...no idea why)

[2:48 PM]  Mr. Blue: 

or like a sex move

[2:48 PM] 

(streetwalker) "Honey, for $50 you can get an Archimedes Screw."

"Ok...get in."

I can see that...heh

[2:49 PM]  Mr. Blue: 

or maybe the opposite

[2:51 PM] 

"...Yeah...all that effort.  Dinner, dancing, flowers.  I thought we had something.  What did I get for all that?  The ol' Archimedes Screw, that's what."

[3:02 PM]  Mr. Blue: 

heh

[1:42 PM] 

(Watching Serial Killer show...FBI agent) "These killers look just like us.  They can be anyone.  Your neighbor.  The person standing next to you." 

(Beth) “Are you one Mr. Silver?  You sometimes seem a little shady."

"Ehhh.  I'd like to get into a new hobby, but who has the time, you know?" 

“True.”

[1:43 PM]  Mr. Brown.: 

"Today on Hobby Corner - how to use lyme to dispose of a body. Does everybody have their shovels?"

[9:01 AM]  Mr. Brown.: 

men over women, then women and men living in some sort of harmony, now women over men

But instead of moving towards harmony, now guys have to be careful

[9:03 AM] 

Ideals vs Reality and the offended having absolutely no regard for cultural history, you mean?

To quote my mom: "They're men". Mrs. Silver agreed.

People bitching about stuff that happened under different cultural norms 20-30-40 years ago as if these guys knew any different.

Doesn't mean it was ever the right way to behave, but culture doesn't give a damn about any morals and ethics of some other culture...especially not one decades into the future.

Ex Post Facto

If it was a crime back then, fine. Otherwise accept the apology made for past activities and fuck off about demanding resignations and etc.

[9:09 AM]  Mr. Brown.: 

yeah

Nature is guys go after women

Culture is men should respect the woman too

[9:11 AM]

As an anthropologist I foresee hilarious consequences to male re-education. 

(women of the near future) "Men are such timid wimps.  I dream of a guy who (fill in assertive male charateristics of past)."

I pointed out how to tell who the natural (not artificially empowered) Alpha males were at Jammenkatzer to the women once when “sexual harassment” was being tossed around for some guy's behavior.

(Alpha female and tribe) "Who?"

"The Alphas are ones who get too close or say something suggestive and the women giggle and the guy gets away with it. All the other guys, you bitch about."

“Yeah right...like who?”

Named names, gave examples.

“If I did that I'd be in the office right now.”

They had to admit I was right.

It's never “sexual harassment” from a guy they already have the hots for.

[9:11 AM]  Mr. McGreen: 

Bible/faith is - men ain't taking orders from no damned women-folk

[9:12 AM]  Mr. Blue: 

and why should they have?

it seems natural that groups try to gain power and then maintain it

If you gave women overreaching power and influence i'm pretty sure they'd try their hardest to maintain it

[9:14 AM]  Mr. McGreen: 

Men just need to learn procreation without them and we can finally be free of the female distraction

[9:15 AM]  Mr. Brown.: 

lol

I just hate how now all guys are scared to say anything, even to friends

Yup, rape is bad

But just normal silly flirty discussion-time joking around?

[9:16 AM]  Mr. Blue: 

i don't know any guys that are afraid to say anything

if you're afraid of saying something its probably that you're not saying it to the right person. find someone else to say it to

[9:18 AM]  Mr. McGreen: 

Mr. Brown wants the freedom to ask women if they've ever had their a**holes licked by a fat man in an overcoat

I think men and women make poor friends.

There will come a point when they feel something for one another, whether it be infatuation or lust or whatever, and if it doesn't lead to more then it leads to problems.

Romantic couples spending time together is fine, but one on one doesnt seem to end well over time.

[9:21 AM] 

Humans wouldn't behave this way if it wasn't a successful social/mating strategy

Honed over thousands of cultural years and millions of biological ones

Just declaring "Hey, that's wrong now" is going to be so much fun to watch (for me)

(Newscaster Alice) "A new study shows that 100% of men have done things over the course of their lives from which 100% of women could choose something they felt was inappropriate."

(Newscaster Tom) "Interesting Alice.  What's the margin of error on that statistic?"

(Newscaster Alice) "It says +/- zero"

(Newscaster Tom) "In a related story, all men in all positions tendered their resignations today in disgrace because no one is noticing a glaring double standard.”

(Newscaster Alice) “You know what you did, creep.”

(Newscaster Tom) “And you know what you did, slut. I'm outta here.”

Al Franken took a feel-up joke photo (no contact) and kissed some women on a comic road show and complied with ill-considered requests to quit. This severely damaged the Democratic government as he was one of the best senators they had.

Pretty stupid trade.

If the country is lucky, he'll re-enter politics some day.

(Baffled shrug)

Meanwhile...Louis C.K. ...

And the dork from Alabama...

And Trump...

[9:29 AM]  Mr. McGreen: 

Trump now has several gross accusations against him and his own words against him and we've done nothing, meanwhile in Hollywood if you are accused you're done.

Maybe he only grabs women by the pussy when he thinks she's concealing a weapon

[9:32 AM] 

I think he wants them to conceal his weapon

"Local male fired for clever play on co-worker's words"

So...OK...society should do the following:

Let's codify it like anything else and put on some caveats

1 to 10 - "pre-adolescent tom-foolery" to "Violent Sexual Crime"

Set some tiers of statutes of limitation because “if nobody cared til now...”

And then ignore every classic and neo-offensive act until about level 5.

I'd rate the worst of the Franken stuff I've heard about as harsh as a 3 - “Tryin' ta kiss girls on the playground and they don't wanna.”

And all very long past the limitation when anyone should have complained.

[9:36 AM]  Mr. Brown.: 

The Al Franken stuff.

Yeah, just looks like a comedian fooling around.

[11:09 AM]  Mr. Blue: 

Glen is sooooo socialist and he doesn't even realize it, yet

"I will not vote Democrat, ever."

[11:23 AM]  Mr. Brown.: 

I never know politically what views are what

guess i did not pay attention in that part of school

[11:26 AM]  Mr. McGreen: 

i wasn't taught that in school

they don't teach useful stuff like that

[11:28 AM]  Mr. Blue: 

Generally...

Left/Liberal are soft on crime, drugs, immigration, pro abortion but anti death penalty, in favor of progressive taxes for wealthy and big corporations.

Right/Conservative is the opposite of that

Tough on crime, drugs, immigration, anti abortion, pro death penalty, want to give tax breaks to wealthy

[11:30 AM]  Mr. McGreen: 

I think as time goes on im siding more with Democratic Socialism, give or take a few topics

[11:30 AM]  Mr. Blue: 

i'm a mixed bag right down the board

example: death penalty AND abortion is both fine to me

i want a progressive tax structure (even more than what we have now) but i don't want a welfare/nanny state

Immigration laws should, IMO, be toughened and strictly enforced

[11:37 AM]  Mr. Brown.: 

We're supposed to be a goverment for the people, but they are not working with the people

[11:38 AM] 

Well sure it is, Mr. Brown

Government of the rich people, for the rich people, by the rich people

I'm a Liberal Radical Technocrat, myself

Have been for a very long time.

There's a school of political thought that suggests we've never even left the feudal system.  Just the names and powers changed

[11:42 AM]  Mr. Blue: 

Not even all the names have changed

[11:42 AM] 

Those who Own/Rule, those who Know, those who Labor

[11:43 AM]  Mr. Blue: 

i read a thing that said of the 10 richest people in an Italian city (forget which one, Milan?) 9 of them are members of the richest families in the same city 500 years ago

[11:43 AM] 

Those who Know started replacing the Owners/Rulers centuries ago, but made the mistake of not locking in a solid system where only the best qualified get to run things.

We could make an AI that could run the world better than this.

I doubt it would even take that long.

[11:45 AM]  Mr. Brown.: 

Robots take over

lol

[11:46 AM] 

Communism tried to move the power to those who Labor.

Suckers...

I'm sure it sounded wonderful on paper

Doesn't work though...turns right into what it was before.  Just shifted a bit.

[11:49 AM]  Mr. Blue: 

Worker revolutions and peasantry revolts have always disproportionately affected the lower class

[11:49 AM] 

"We're no longer peasants!  We're comrades!"

"Shut up and get back to work, comrade."

"I'd like to move." 

"Well...fortunately you're no longer bound to the land like a serf waiting on the pleasure of your lord.  Now The People decide for themselves. We'll see if The People want you to move... (looks in folder) … Nope."

No wonder they took to it so well.  It was exactly the same

[11:54 AM]  Mr. Blue: 

New Commies argue that past Communist governments "weren't real Communism".

Real Communism can only be achieved on a global scale

AKA never...

It's a pipe dream

Yet they still want it

[11:56 AM] 

(memory)

(Me) "Communism was invented by men who couldn't hold down a job"

(political student friend) "That's GREAT!  Who said that?"

"I did...just now."

And it was...

Scraping out a crap living writing complaints in indy magazines between real jobs is not a shining resume

[11:56 AM]  Mr. Blue: 

It's only Communism when it's global and it works. Since it'll never be global and it can't work, it's a purity test that will never be achieved, therefore they'll always be blameless.

It's kind of like Neo-Nazis simultaneously denying the holocaust but also wishing it actually did happen.

Commies simultaneously deny any Communist government ever existed but defend the USSR, North Korea, Cuba, and China until they're blue in the face

[1:58 PM]  Mr. Brown.: 

So a Technocracy, the government finds all the intelligent people keeps tabs on them

so when needed they can call upon them?

[1:59 PM] 

If they'd want to recruit me, they just have to ask...

"Mr. Silver we need an out-of-the-box, edge-of-the-envelope thinker of your caliber to figure out how to get these square pegs in these round holes.  Interested?"

[2:00 PM]  Mr. Brown.: 

“peanut butter and a large hammer. any other questions?”

[2:02 PM]  Mr. Blue: 

"Mr. Blue, we at Secret Shadow Government need a good janitor. interested?"