[9:14
AM] Mr. Blue:
i
forget what movie now but there's one movie where the japanese
version is very highly coveted because of extra scenes. Might even
be Conan? I think we discussed it
“The
Goonies” is another... one version has an octopus in it
Which
explains the "the octopus was very scary" part at the
ending
[9:18
AM]
My
favorite line
I
saw the octopus version and said "OMG! But Data making up
BS for the press was such a brilliant gag!"
[9:18
AM] Mr. Blue:
i
remember renting it once and getting the octopus version one for the
first time and that came on and i was like "wtf"?
[9:18
AM]
Yup
[9:18
AM] Mr. Blue:
And
there's another version that has a convenience store scene that
explains how the map got burned
[9:18
AM]
The
convenience store issue was an understandable cut.
The
kids were foul-mouthed, destructive thieves
It
was a bit much to empathize with.
[9:20
AM] Mr. McGreen:
Nowadays
they'd have been shot
[9:20
AM]
(me)
"So if they lose their homes, these perverted criminal bastards
have to move away from this nice community? OK."
[9:20
AM] Mr. Blue:
I
think maybe the convenience store and octopus were in the same one i
watched.
But
it was after i had already memorized every scene and line so it was a
real curveball to watch
[9:21
AM] Mr. McGreen:
I
saw the movie like once
[9:21
AM]
On
the DVD all that stuff is in the extras
[9:21
AM] Mr. Blue:
The
octopus is a terrible prop... like something left over from the 50s
[9:21
AM] Mr. McGreen:
Probably
later used for the Popeye movie
Oh,
well actually Popeye came first
[9:24
AM]
(Steven
S) "I'm looking for a giant rubber octopus."
(Prop
house on the phone with Spielberg, looking at huge stack of unpaid
“Popeye” bills) "Uh...Yeah. I might have
something. But it's...uh...expensive."
[9:26
AM] Mr. Blue:
heh
The
town they built for Popeye is still there
[9:27
AM]
Yup
[9:27
AM] Mr. Blue:
Forget
where... Greece?
[9:27
AM]
The
locals have been keeping it up as a tourist attraction.
[9:28
AM] Mr. Blue:
The
boat from “Fitzcarraldo” is still rotting in the jungle too
[9:28
AM] Mr. McGreen:
The
plane they dropped during The Dark Knight Rises is still laying on
the ground in Ireland
I
guess local governing bodies weren't concerned about cleaning it up
[9:29
AM] Mr. Blue:
heh
[9:32
AM]
Getting
back to the Goonies, I've had this nagging suspicion for a very long
time that there's no way the gems they brought back were going to
appraise and sell for enough...and quickly enough...to make enough
money to save the Goondocks.
[9:32
AM] Mr. McGreen:
I
can see what you mean about trouble offloading them quick enough
[9:33
AM]
I
mean...they were fairly large. But they were from the
1500-1600s. A lot of them would be things that aren't worth
very much.
Even
the rubies and emeralds...how nice were they?
Were
they garbage quality in rough cuts?
[9:34
AM] Mr. McGreen:
Wasn’t
there gold too?
[9:34
AM]
Gold?
On the ship - which would be sinking sometime in the 5-10 minutes
after the closing scene.
That's
a million dollar undertaking to dredge that up
(Mikey) "What
about this one?"
(gemologist)
"Garnet. Big one, yes. I'll give you...oh...$100?"
[9:35
AM] Mr. McGreen:
(Mr.
Silver before watching a movie) “Honey, have you seen my
skepitcals?
[9:36
AM]
Heh
[9:36
AM] Mr. McGreen:
Goonies
2 shows how the plan fails and they all move away
[9:39
AM]
(Cyndi
Lauper sings) "Wasn't...Good enough...for you.
“Wasn't...good
enough...for me.
“Not
GOOD enough...
“Good
enough for me-E!
“Aye
aye aye aye aye..."
(Trailer
voice) "The Goonies are back and wanting revenge! The
little scamps are all grown up and out for blood and loot! One
Eyed Willie would be proud!"
[9:42
AM] Mr. Blue:
"Mouth
is now a thieving crackhead. Brand is on Trenbolone.
Chunk has type 2 diabetes."
[9:44
AM]
(Chunk)
"What's the safe combination, Troy?"
"I'm
not telling you, Goonie!"
"Mouth?
Go to the kitchen and get the blender. I'm gonna show you a
trick the Fratellis taught me."
[2:18
PM] Mr. Blue:
[2:25
PM]
"We
have a community retirement scheme, ma'am...whether you like it or
not."
"Haha!
Let me guess. Like the Tar Pit from that Dinosaurs show."
"Nothing
so fancy..."
Back
to Tacoma "Come by Stadium Bowl, home of Sports Ball!"
[2:36
PM] Mr. Blue:
I
just linked for the "Old Women's Gulch" thing
And
of all the places - right next to a high school?
I
wonder what the team mascot is: the peanut vendor?
[2:37
PM]
Old
woman with a broken neck covered in brambles?
[2:38
PM] Mr. Blue:
Heh
It
is women plural. Maybe it's just a big pile of them.
[9:30
AM] Mr. McGreen:
Some
pretty serious undertones in Disney's Hunchback
i
too know what it feel like to be a monster
[9:30
AM] Mr. Brown:
Well,
they were taking an adult story and making it a kids one
[9:32
AM]
Well,
Mr McGreen, you're obviously touched by the Devil or something, so
your mom needs hanged or burned and you should be crushed under a
stone or something.
After
baptism, of course...there's a chance you're human
[9:33
AM] Mr. Blue:
"iiii
am not an animal!"
[9:33
AM]
Oh!
I've
been keeping this one -
https://aeon.co/ideas/why-the-trial-by-ordeal-was-actually-an-effective-test-of-guilt
Clever.
I should have seen through it with my tiny bit of Voodoo philosophy
[9:39
AM] Mr. Brown:
Trial
by psychology
lol
[10:04
AM] Mr. Blue:
208
defendants in Várad in Hungary underwent hot-iron ordeals.
Amazingly, nearly two-thirds of defendants were unscathed by the
‘red-hot’ irons they carried and hence exonerated. If the priests
who administered these ordeals understood how to heat iron, as they
surely did, that leaves only two explanations for the ‘miraculous’
results: either God really did intervene to reveal the defendants’
innocence, or the priests made sure that the iron they carried wasn’t
hot.
What
about the other 1/3?
This
article assumes the priests were just and empathetic
Or
did the priests just burn the 1/3 that they had sufficient evidence
against, as if they were the judge and jury?
[10:05
AM] Mr. Brown:
yes
They
know he did it, someone caught him doing it...
BURN
HIM
[10:05
AM] Mr. Blue:
But
if that's the case there was no need for a charade... Just have a
real trial.
[10:06
AM] Mr. Brown:
What
fun is that?
[10:06
AM]
God
trumps evidence of the state. They might have asked for the ordeal
themselves for the chance of escape. Heck...God was letting 2 out of
3 go.
[10:08
AM] Mr. Blue:
The
priest would need to be sure he got it right lest he create a lot of
non-believers
[10:08
AM]
There
could have been a few...inconvenient...people involved in the trial
pool too. "Oops...I appear to have stumbled on this bag of
gold coins, Father. It's not mine, so I wish to donate it
anonymously to the church. Perhaps you could use some of this money
to make sure you have enough fuel for the iron bars for this list of defendants."
And
vice versa, of course.
[10:08
AM] Mr. Blue:
Imagine
if some guy killed someone you loved, but "God" found him not guilty
[10:09
AM]
Like...say...the
vicomte's cousin? Again?
[10:09
AM] Mr. Blue:
Heh..
“Spies Like Us”
"Can
you hold my wallet during the test? There's a thousand dollars in
it...or maybe there isn't."
[10:09
AM]
heh
[10:10
AM] Mr. Blue:
So
I think the priest gathered evidence and punished accordingly.
If he thought they were innocent he cooled the iron. If he didn't,
he left it red hot. And if the defendant bullied the priest as a kid
it probably didn't matter how innocent he was.
[10:10
AM]
Exactly
[10:11
AM] Mr. Brown:
You
could probably heat iron to look hot but not be
[10:12
AM]
Doesn't
have to be cherry red to burn you pretty good.
Nothing
to "look" at unless you make it insanely hot for such a
test and performed it in the dark.
I'm
not going to test my cast iron skillet with my palm anytime soon.
[10:13
AM] Mr. Brown:
"Hey!
Why does he get the black iron and mine is red?"
[10:13
AM]
They'd
have to stick with black for this trick
[10:13
AM] Mr. Brown:
slight
of hand - slips iron right next to the forge
[10:14
AM]
"Bring
me the barrel of Holy Water to bless this iron, brother."
FWOOSH!
"See!
It boils and steams! Hot as embers! The defendant will
step forward."
[10:15
AM] Mr. Brown:
Priest
fumbles hot iron: “OUCH! DAMN IT!”
Crowd:
“Guilty! Sinner! Kill him!”
[10:16
AM]
(Waves
hot iron around vigorously in the winter air) "His doom is
sealed – SEALED I SAY – if this burns his hands! Let us
pray. (sets down on big granite slab)"
"(flips
bar over on stone) And again, in Latin..."
[10:17
AM] Mr. Brown:
Sounds
like a Monty Python skit
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