Watched Hellraiser 2
[1:01 PM] Mr. Silver:
I remember 1 was the best, but I saw 2 and 3.
Which one was 2?
[1:02 PM] Mr. Brown:
I'm pretty sure I have seen them all, but don't ask me to remember a lot. The space one is interesting
[1:02 PM] Mr. Blue:
2 picks up where the 1st one leaves off. Kirsty is in a mental institution and one of the doctors there is seeking the cenobites.
Another doctor is skeptical but catches the doctor summoning Julia from the first one, so he tries to escape with Kirsty
The bad doctor keeps some crazy girl at the hospital just because she's good with puzzles and she figures out the Lament Configuration.
The cenobites all show up to torture her but Pinhead stops them:
"It is desire that calls us, not hands."
Because she's basically catatonic aside from being able to solve puzzles. And then they bump into Kirsty and thinks she called them.
[1:05 PM] Mr. Silver:
Then Kirsty shouts "If that's true then why the Hell were you hassling me in the last one??? I call bullshit!"
[1:06 PM] Mr. Blue:
"First you didn't know what the box was... Now you say you didn't open it. Why are you teasing us?"
[1:06 PM] Mr. Silver:
Heh. They probably liked the idea she was anyway.
[1:06 PM] Mr. Blue:
It's funny how the cenobites are kind of stupid.
You also find out that Chatterbox was a little kid before he was turned into a cenobite
[1:12 PM] Mr. Brown:
Yeah, you find out a lot about who all of them were
That movie use to freak me out
[1:17 PM] Mr. Blue:
You'd think being a cenobite would be unpleasant, but the doctor gets turned into a cenobite and the first thing he says is "and to think... I hesitated."
So I guess it must be fun.
[1:22 PM] Mr. Brown:
That set of guards did not look like they had fun – Doesn't Pinhead normally stick to killing bad people?
[1:23 PM] Mr. Blue:
I don't think he “kills” anybody
He just tortures them, and it doesn't matter if they're bad or good as long as they're curious.
He doesn't need the body; they destroy it so they can torture their soul, or whatever.
Mr. Silver explained it to me cuz I didn't really get it at first.
They come from a realm or dimension where pleasure and pain are basically the same thing, so they actually think they're doing people a favor by tearing apart a body so they can extract and torture the soul.
[1:29 PM] Mr. Silver:
Maybe that's the “Galaxy of Pleasure” where the Flash Gordon drink that has no name comes from.
It would explain why so many men died getting it.
"Weeeellll... Its a Galaxy of 'Pleasure'...but there's all sorts of 'Pleasure'..."
[1:34 PM] Mr. Brown:
Hellraiser: Hellseeker
That one shows souls in Limbo
[1:34 PM] Mr. Blue:
Although the scenes were later removed from the film, “Hellraiser: Bloodline” did film scenes showing Rococo Cenobites complete with white powdered faces and wigs. This leans toward the belief that the look or fashions of the Cenobites change over time.
It sounds like they gave up on their amorality after the 2nd film and started making Pinhead a more traditional movie monster.
I wish they'd have stuck with the original idea
[1:38 PM] Mr. Brown:
Changed them around a bunch
Hellraiser: Revelations
That one looks dumb
They should have not used Pinhead when they could not get the original guy
They tried to reinvent the Pinhead look in that last one
[1:43 PM] Mr. Blue:
He looks terrible
[1:44 PM] Mr. Brown:
Yep
[1:44 PM] Mr. Blue:
Looks like a bad Pinhead cosplay
[2:03 PM] Mr. Silver:
Pinhead lives on Gore Orphanage Rd
Well...he should...
"The 10th film, "Hellraiser: Hell To Pay Check", involves Pinhead mugging at the camera while half naked women run around screaming."
[2:36 PM] Mr. Blue:
LOL
[2:37 PM] Mr. Silver:
Reading through all this, they really seem to have lost their high concept here...
[2:38 PM] Mr. Blue:
“Hellraiser: Empire” is just a static image of Pinhead for 8 hours while Andy Warhol mumbles in the background
[2:40 PM] Mr. Silver:
(movie trailer voice) “Hellraiser: Empire...Hell is Avant Garde”
[2:40 PM] Mr. Brown:
Hellraiser: Pins” - 7 hours of pins taken out of his head and put back in again while he is staring at the camera
[2:41 PM] Mr. Blue:
And then eventually there will be the crossovers
“The Cenobites Meet The Flintstones!”
“Madea Goes to Hell”
[2:43 PM] Mr. Silver:
“Jim Henson's: Hellraiser Babies”
(muppet Pinhead) "You opened the toy box...we came to play!"
“Hellraiser: How The Hell?” Pinhead tries to solve Rubik's cube and goes on a frustrated rampage
[2:46 PM] Mr. Blue:
"Hellfeld" -- Hellraiser: Seinfeld
Pinfeld "So I mentioned what we talked about... eternal torture pushing the boundaries of what is physically possible in our universe."
Buttergeorge "So what happened?"
Pinfeld "Sheeee's INTO IT!"
[2:46 PM] Mr. Silver:
Buttergeorge "What?!?!"
Pinfeld "And she talked to her Hellmate, and she's into it too."
Buttergeorge "Pin! That's unbelievable!"
(The Kramerer emerges abruptly through a flesh portal, spasming and chattering)
"Pin! Need some rusty fishhooks."
"Big or small?"
"Oh, deep sea, Pin...deep sea..."
"Third drawer."
[2:52 PM] Mr. Brown:
(Soup Cenobyte to Elpaine) “No torture for you! One eternity!”
(Buttergeorge emerges from the cube...Girl that solved it looks at him...gazes down at his crotch...gives a smirk)
(Buttergeorge) “I was in the cube! I was in the cube!”
[2:57 PM] Mr. Silver:
Ah...now there's a scene that is ripe for a Hellfeld episode...but how? (thinks)
(Pinfeld) "Are you still King of the Pleasures?"
(Buttergeorge "I'm master of my exquisite pain."
(Elpaine comes in, slaps down handful of ears) "I'm out!"
(Pinfeld) "You caved?”
(Buttergeorge, in disbelief) "Oh my God, the Queen is dead!"
(Pinfeld) “How did it happen?”
(Elpaine sing-song) "The Marquis de Sade..."
(Pinfel, in disbelief) "No!"
(Elpaine) "Yyyyyyup! I was ripping up an aerobic instructor and his soul floated right in to my torture theater. Then I saw him later (giddy) and he asked if I wanted to split a Senator."
[3:01 PM] Mr. Brown:
I'm pretty sure if somebody did a cenobite Seinfeld spoof I would watch it.
Oh wow...the whole pee in the shower at the gym would be amazing with cenobites
[3:03 PM] Mr. Blue:
Heheh
[3:03 PM] Mr. Brown:
“She has man hands.” Literally, has mens' hands
[11:26 AM] Mr. Brown:
Well, I'm going to this awards dinner
[11:26 AM] Mr. Silver:
Yes?
[11:26 AM] Mr. Brown:
They are going to sit me with people I don't know from the company and it will be very akward.
[11:27 AM] Ms. Rose:
I went last year. Be sure to drink before and after (and during, if you can get away with it.)
[11:28 AM] Mr. Brown:
Was it eating then a lot of talking about uninteresting stuff I have no involvement with? That's what I see in my head
[11:29 AM] Mr. Blue:
A lot of ritualistic stuff with the head honchos - blindfolds, paddles, chants
[11:31 AM] Ms. Rose:
I don't remember much from last year.
I was stuck at a table where everyone else knew each other, and completely and totally ignored me the ENTIRE night. I was literally sneezed on, and was ignored when I asked someone to pass the salt.
[11:35 AM] Mr. Blue:
I wouldn't even go
[11:35 AM] Mr. Brown:
So you would hit decline then throw your fist in the air like Breakfast Club?
They are gumpy old men
[11:55 AM] Mr. Blue:
Gumby old men
[11:56 AM] Ms. Rose:
Look out! It's Pokey!
[11:56 AM] Mr. Silver:
Gumby old men airing their gremblances
Be fair, he spelled it “gumpy”
"I am not a smart man..."
[11:58 AM] Mr. Silver:
"Momma always said awards dinners are like a box of chocolates. You eat 'em all and you feel mighty sick."
Or maybe it was this Gump:
GOD I love that movie!
If it weren't for THAT movie, I would have grown up believing Tom Cruise was a tool the entire time.
And then I watched Rocky Horror Picture Show and someone said, "You know that guy is the guy who played the devil in Legend." And I didn't believe them for many years, and we didn't have the interwebs to check.
[12:01 PM] Mr. Silver:
Hehe
[12:02 PM] Mr. Blue:
I don't think I've ever seen Legend. I'm not sure how I missed it
[12:03 PM] Ms. Rose:
You have not lived, sir.
It's honestly really bad. But I loved it as a kid.
[12:03 PM] Mr. Silver:
I'd like to see the European cut
Which I'm guessing is the opposite of "The cut for Americans"
(brit announcer) "Next, "Legend". A deep and engaging fantasy splendor to make one think."
(whisper) "Its the American version"
(brit announcer) "Next, "Legend"...a fantasy movie."
[12:05 PM] Ms. Rose:
Ha!
[12:06 PM] Mr. Blue:
Heh
[12:06 PM] Mr. Silver:
I didn't think it is THAT bad. Has it's issues, certainly.
[12:06 PM] Mr. Blue:
I know that Tom Cruise doesn't like talking about it, like possibly even ending interviews if people bring it up.
Jennifer Connelly used to do the same about Labyrinth, but I think she's cool with it now
[12:08 PM] Ms. Rose:
Tom Cruise is more believable as a forest-dweller than a Jack Reacher.
[12:08 PM] Mr. Blue:
In 2000, Universal unearthed an answer print of the 113-minute preview cut with Jerry Goldsmith's score. This print had minor visual anomalies that were eventually digitally replaced, occasionally with finished shots from the 89-minute U.S. version. This edition is Scott's preferred 2002 "Director's Cut", with the restored Jerry Goldsmith soundtracks. The Director's Cut's source is one of only two prints of this extended version known to exist, used for Universal's 2002 DVD (and eventual Blu-ray) "Ultimate Edition."[25]
[12:08 PM] Ms. Rose:
(adds to Amazon wish list)
[12:10 PM] Mr. Blue:
"Unearthed" makes it sound like it was found in an archeological dig
[12:11 PM] Ms. Rose:
Right.
"Unearthed! In the second nightstand drawer, next to the Alka-Seltzer under 'Ernest Goes to Jail'."
[12:12 PM] Mr. Silver:
Hehe
[12:13 PM] Mr. Blue:
"Found nearby was a Walkman and several petrified snap bracelets"
[12:15 PM] Mr. Silver:
(Nazis Q-ing up "Legend" on VCR...Indy and Marion tied to a pole) "Don't look at it!!!"
[12:17 PM] Mr. Blue:
Heh
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