Saturday, October 18, 2014

309 - "Never Retreat, Never Surrender, Never Fight Seal Hunters", Let The Architecture Reflect The Local Character, "So You're Telling Me To Check The Box?", Computer Security Needs A Champion, and Deadly Diplopodology

Mr. Silver
So I watched "300" with Mrs Silver.
Meaning I watched "300" with Mrs. Silver and loved it (mostly) and she wandered off because it was “too violent”.
"Pft...you watch Vikings, Game of Thrones and True Blood, but you can't handle this?"
It was fun.
But...
2:18 PM Mr. Blue
I didn't care for it. Xerxes was about the only good part.
2:19 PM Mr. Silver
Me "Dude...I understand 'never retreat' and understand 'never surrender', but there should be a 'don't be stupid and not reposition when flanked' clause."
2:20 PM Mr. Blue
Yeah, there's a reason the Spartans didn't reign too long.
2:22 PM Mr. Silver
Sparta?
They were around for centuries.
2:22 PM Mr. Brown
Yeah.
2:22 PM Mr. Silver
I don't think they were particularly intelligent as a culture, but they weren't flops.
2:22 PM Mr. Blue
They were puny with the exception of a few hundred years.
2:22 PM Mr. Silver
So...longer than the United States of America.
Rome was a fishing village.
They just weren't culturally static goobers and decided to spread out a little.
2:23 PM Mr. Blue
It was like feudal Japan.
They were pretty brutal.
Advanced and organized, but brutal.
2:27 PM Mr. Silver
I have some doubts about the accuracy of the equipment and tactics in '300'...
Little details...like...oh...Spartans wore armor.
Like "we fight in the phalanx!"
(unless it's dramatic to completely break their famous discipline and run out into a wide open field for no sane reason)
2:31 PM Mr. Silver
Then there was “Unleash the freemen on the flank against the immortals!”
Me "Um...where did they come from? They sure as heck didn't run out of the pass.”
2:33 PM Mr. Silver
If they'd moved 50' back into that pass and held there, they could have locked down that place a week longer.
2:34 PM Mr. Brown
I'm wondering if they did that in the real battle; held that pass the right way, but were overwhelmed in time.
I forget how the battle went.
2:37 PM Mr. Silver
Well...they all died.
2:37 PM Mr. Brown
Right.
But the real battle. Were they flanked, lose by attrition, or just get overwhelmed?
2:41 PM Mr. Silver
I haven't gotten to look it up again as intended so couldn't say. 
There was a lot more than 300 Spartans and some irregulars there though.
2:47 PM Mr. Blue
And the Persians weren't stretched across the horizon as they were in the film.
Ever see “Troy”?
F***in' armies 20,000,000 strong.
2:49 PM Mr. Silver
"Helen of Troy - The face that launched 200,000 ships."
I have difficulty believing there were 20 million people on earth in the Heroic Age.
2:50 PM Mr. Blue
The armies wouldn't even fit in the cities they were fighting for in the movie.
2:52 PM Mr. Blue
Go back in time a couple thousand years with a Glock and a few boxes of rounds, and you'd rule the world in about a month. LOL
2:59 PM Mr. Brown
Nah, they'd get you with arrows from way out.
If we'd met native Americans before we had guns, oh boy.
LOL
3:00 PM Mr. Silver
The Vikings did. It didn't last.
3:01 PM Mr. Brown
Who? Vikings or natives?
3:01 PM Mr. Silver
See any native Vikings living around Vinland lately?
3:01 PM Mr. Blue
Vikings and Native Americans met without guns.
3:01 PM Mr. Silver
The vikings had to leave...it was embarrassing.
I have a book on the best-assembled bits and reconstructed events of the attempted holding of a settlement in North America.  Pretty interesting.
3:05 PM Mr. Silver
They...um...lost to seal hunters after a stupid misunderstanding.
Poor vikings.
3:13 PM Mr. Silver
Some of the book, as I recall, was the author taking stories and sagas of the Vikings to get into their heads and understand their POV and attitudes about stuff, and then taking some of the arrogant-warrior-jerk spin back off of them.
3:20 PM Mr. Silver
I think it went that they liked the place, picked a spot, started settling in, and all was going well.  They encountered a few skraelings (natives) at a distance. 
Eventually the natives came in to meet the new neighbors all friendly-like.
They had not seen a steel axe before and "TRIED TO STEAL IT!!!!"  (translation: Asked politely to have a look and touched it.)
And that was the end of diplomacy and a fight broke out, because you don't touch another man's axe; especially if you're a dirty inferior foreign skraeling.
3:22 PM Mr. Brown
Yay viking culture.
LOL
Yeah, a dumb reason to start a fight.
3:22 PM Mr. Blue
I imagine both sides had some weird cultural things that the other side could have easily been offended by.
3:24 PM Mr. Silver
Nod. 
After the first fight, the natives naturally recognized the superior Scandinavians as their masters right away, and immediately bowed to their authority...until the natives didn't.
And the next time they ran into each other the native “simple seal hunters” beat the living tar out of the vikings.
3:25 PM Mr. Silver
And though the Norse heroes loved their Gods-granted chosen land, they decided after a few one-sided scraps that they'd “come back later”...but it wasn't like they were running away or anything.



Mr. Silver
"Ohio Lawmakers also want to limit the teaching of the attractive architecture process"
12:58 PM Mr. Blue
Yeah, worst state capitol ever.
"Shouldn’t we put a dome on this thing?" 
"Naaaaah"
1:01 PM Mr. Silver
Governor "And this is the final design, huh?"
Architect "Yup!"
"Did you finish at breakfast before running out the door?"
"Well...yes.  How did you know?"
"The Quaker Oats cylinder on the top of the model."
"Ah...yeah, about that..."
"We LOVE it!"
"I'm really sorry, but-... You do?"
(Gaggle of suits) "Awesome!"
"Unique!"
"Flat as Ohio on top!"
"Flat as the average Ohioan politician’s personality!"
"Flat as our tastes!"
"Flat as our heads!"
High in the middle and round at both ends! Get it?” 
(All) "HAHAHA!"
(Architect backs away)
1:07 PM Mr. Blue
Oregon’s capitol is worse. Looks like a mausoleum.
1:14 PM Mr. Blue
I don't mind Louisiana or North Dakota…at least they did something different than the ol' Greek revival stuff.



3:22 PM Mr. Silver
I'm not sure why I even bother...
Koppel is a pinhead...so I warn him.
"Don't check the box...
See the box?
Tell me what it says.
That's the box.
Don't check it.
Don't check it.
That's right, don't check it."
2 minutes later he OBVIOUSLY F-ING CHECKED THE F-ING BOX.
"Did you check the (f-ing) box (you moron)?"
"I don't remember."
"Well, you did."



Mr. Blue
"Paladin" is in the list of most common passwords used.
10:59 AM Mr. Silver
Interesting.
11:03 AM Mr. Silver
"New passwords need to be at least 6 characters long...must contain a number from 1 to 12...and needs to be Lawful Good or a champion from the Battle of Roncevaux."



Mr. Blue
The water wasn't very crystal at Camp Crystal Lake
10:59 AM Mr. Silver
It was Mud Lake before the strategic marketing meeting.
11:01 AM Mr. Blue
"Visit beautiful Scum Lake!"
"Take a canoe to tranquil Millipede Island!"
11:06 AM Mr. Blue
Wow.. millipedes can cause train derailments?
Other species exhibit periodical swarming behaviour, which can result in home invasions,[46] crop damage,[47] train delays, or even train crashes and derailments.[48][49]
11:06 AM Mr. Silver
Holy crap...that's verified?
11:07 AM Mr. Blue
11:07 AM Mr. Silver
It must have been a bunch and made it slick as they were crushed up.
11:08 AM Mr. Blue
Yeah.
11:10 AM Mr. Silver
Mrs. Silver and I took Mrs. Gray out to (park) over the weekend to burn off some stress while he was tearing his hair out over a writing project...
And Silver Jr. spotted a good sized millipede.
Jr. "Come look!"
Gray "No way!  I don't like looking at anything buggy with a lot of legs.  Ugh!"
Me "Hmmm...I'll have to remember that for the next D&D game: 'The party is jumped by a 50' long millipede!  It charges at you at a scorching quarter mile-per-hour!"
Gray (evil glare)
11:12 AM Mr. Blue
Heh
Millipedes are amongst the least creepy bugs, IMO.
11:13 AM Mr. Silver
Centipedes, however...
The “sports” millipede
11:13 AM Mr. Blue
Yeah.
11:13 AM Mr. Silver
Fast, carnivorous, and with painful bites to boot!
11:16 AM Mr. Blue
Yeah, they're venomous.
The Amazonian giant centipede, is the largest existing species of centipede in the world, reaching over 30 cm (12 in) in length. It is known to eat lizards, frogs, birds, mice, and even bats, catching them in midflight,[8] as well as rodents and spiders.

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