Friday, April 3, 2020

597 - Tiki Tiki!, Anthropologists Need To Ask Around Before Publishing, Gentle Soothing Explosions, and The Gate To Hell Is Bricked With Good Intentions

[9:12 AM] 
Remember me lamenting The Enchanted Tiki Room the other day?
[9:14 AM]  Mr. Blue: 
yes
[9:16 AM] 
It turns out I told the whole thing about Disney getting Von Braun to work on it and what a huge technical undertaking it was to someone who goes to Disney every year for work...basically...whether she wants to or not. 
And so when i complained about the new version she said "Oh!  they restored it back.  I love the Tiki Room."
So i looked it up this morning
Quiet observation #1... little glimpses of "attraction so terrible" comments.
And then the main story:
"There was a small fire at the attraction.  The Iago character was badly damaged.  So they decided to restore the room to the original instead of rebuilding that part."
Translation:
1. Disney thought it would be funny
2. People hated it
3. Disney doesn't admit they are wrong
4. Disney reported a "fire" and closed it down.
5. Disney reported they wouldn't repair the “damaged part”.
6. Disney spent probably spent millions more than the “fire” repair would have cost restoring it back to what everyone loved.
Tiki tiki tiki Hoom!
[9:22 AM]  Mr. Blue:
Heh
I don't even remember it being a thing worth checking out when i went back in the day.. Maybe it was under repair then or had fallen out of popularity
[9:24 AM] 
It's had it's trials over the decades, yes.  They let it basically fall apart before wiser heads stepped in.
[9:24 AM]  Mr. Blue: 
I went in about... 93 or 94
[9:24 AM] 
I think one of the gods fell off the roof...Thatch was rotten...the pneumatics were getting weak. 
Now its all fixed up, new sound system.  Etc



[9:32 AM] 
"Archaeologist Team Reveals None Of Them Have Ever Seen A Kite In Their Lives."  https://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/kites-of-the-middle-east
"Please enjoy 3 photos of the "6000" examples and some landscape shots showing nothing."
Looks like I have to blame the RAF for not knowing what a kite is
[9:55 AM]  Mr. Blue: 
heh
yeah looks like just animal pens
it looks like the same kind of fish trap people setup and leave overnight in rivers
easy to get in, hard to find your way back out
[10:04 AM] 
They're pretty big
Wonder if they used to be real walls that just fell apart and people carted off to build new stuff
[10:07 AM]  Mr. Blue: 
that's what I'd guess
[10:07 AM] 
6000 years of weather later they are lines of rocks
[10:07 AM]  Mr. Blue: 
the Nazca lines are just lines in the dirt
they were never walls
these look like they're piles of rubble that could've been more than a few feet high if piled up
interesting that explorers crossed over them without even noticing
even just piles of rocks though could've kept large hooved animals in i think... like a cattle grate
[10:18 AM] 
And circles for watch posts?
Looks like fort sensibilities, honestly
They're a more advanced wall design than was used til the renaissance
Walls are concave or angled in from the points for full sight/bow coverage from two vantage points, and angled to see a target from behind.
No need for that kind of layout unless it's for other people
[10:49 AM]  Mr. Blue: 
what the points?
[10:52 AM] 
Nod
The circles at the points
[10:53 AM]  Mr. Blue: 
yeah
[10:54 AM] 
"mid-period" walls would allow a limited number of guards to aim at someone's sides at best...some of them were worse.
[10:55 AM]  Mr. Blue: 
not sure why the big long entrances
[10:55 AM] 
But this cut in technique not only allows more to turn their attention, but also exposes much more undefended back of an invader
[10:56 AM]  Mr. Blue: 
the corners/points could've also funneled animals into for slaughter
say you chase a bunch of animals in and then scare them into the corners
a fort built by a really short race of beings
[10:58 AM] 
In all shown cases, the entrance funnels past more towers.  Sometimes several.  And maybe false parallel paths too
A stone curtain wall is still a pretty good defense
short or not, I'd rather be in one than not
I considered the corner animal funnel idea, yes
But why so damned big?  More like a paddock
Besides, the places would be littered with warheads and the like inside
[11:01 AM]  Mr. Blue: 
maybe they wouldn't check on it for weeks.. needed enough space inside that the animals could graze
looks like you can even see alterations / expansions to the entrance
maybe even some type of fortified trading outpost
[11:31 AM] 
Yup
Fort
“cannot see any clear ‘functional’ purpose, so surely they are some kind of site where ritual activities of some kind took place,”
GD archaeologists...
"WIZARD DID IT!"
I have a whole book somewhere I bought just because it was so delightful to me as a student - "The Book of Beginnings"
A big thick heavy academic work by a PhD covering probably a few hundred mythologies and traditional belief systems.
Every damned one of them he concluded were to do with fertility traditions and rituals
Didn't matter what it was
"I have no idea what this is.  So it's probably fertility."
Like no one on planet earth ever had any other concerns
[11:55 AM]  Mr. Blue: 
heh
like the Venus figurines
"had something to do with fertility"
they were probably just horny... it was upper paleolithic porn
[12:04 PM] 
Well...meso/neo
but yeah...carry around a hot "babe"
She's obviously rich
A glamour girl
"She eats like a queen.  Not like these rail thin girls with no chest or tush."
“Obviously a fertility symbol.  There's no other logical function."
[12:13 PM]  Mr. Blue: 
heh
[12:20 PM] 
"One of several similar goddesses who share no characteristics with the indigenous tribes of the territory, so apparently they are an import from the far west of northern Europe."  



[8:06 AM]  Mr. Yellow: 
another hot one here in tropical Ohio
[8:06 AM] 
Yupper
[8:09 AM]  Mr. Yellow: 
yep
[8:10 AM] 
(Singing) "We're havin' a heat waaaave!  A tropical heat waaaave!"  https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/muppet/images/7/7d/Penguins_mfc.gif/revision/latest?cb=20160927013401
[8:24 AM]  Mr. Yellow: 
I am trying to not go outside today
burrr
[8:26 AM] 
Instinct takes over as the cavemen all try to hide in the dark where it's warm til it's over.
I told you the sleeping during thunderstorm paradox theory?
[8:27 AM]  Mr. Yellow: 
no
[8:31 AM] 
Some people are terrified by the flash and sound, so find it impossible to sleep.
But other people not only sleep right through it, but actually talk about liking it and even seek out sound machines that simulate it, because they find it very relaxing.
Theory – Its the instinctive response of the adult defenders of the family/tribe
Instead of staying up half-awake all night worrying about predators, the protector knows he/she can sleep easy when it's storming out because none of the predators are going to be out stalking them in it.
Rain is good...thunderstorms are great
(rain/rain-water sounds also being extremely popular sleep sounds)
This is my theory BTW.  I don't know if anyone else ever investigated it.
[8:40 AM]  Mr. Yellow: 
interesting



[9:53 AM]  Mr. Brown: 
There is a well in my basement due to previous owner deciding to build a section on to the home.
That well collapsed and i had to drill a new one outside, but that room is a root cellar, basically
It has a full basement wall to it so it gets like an ice box in there
Its also where the water comes in from outside
I can't knock the wall out, but i put a heater in there
[9:55 AM] 
[9:56 AM]  Mr. Brown: 
Every night I gotta stuff her back in there
“Stay in there damn it!”
[9:56 AM] 
"We put a heater in and she's fine."
[9:56 AM]  Mr. Brown: 
The well in there would still work but the pipe can't be pulled – it broke
[9:57 AM]  Mr. Blue: 
Every haunted house movie ever has the plot point of a strange wall in the basement that was built by a previous owner for unknown reasons.
Because if your basement had a gateway to unspeakable horror what would anyone do?  Clumsily brick it up of course!
[9:57 AM]  Mr. Brown: 
lol
new horror flick. The Wall Builder
“I came home and there was this wall in my basement. It started bleeding.”
lol
[10:00 AM]  Mr. Blue: 
Birds flying into your windows? Voices in the attic? Daughter wakes up covered in scratches?  Better watch a YT tutorial on mixing mortar.
[10:01 AM]  Mr. Brown: 
(guy in overall with a trowel) “Do you have poltergeists, strange happenings, voices? Have you discovered strange fluids in your basement? Well we here at Hell Walls can help! We stop Hell, for you! (points finger)”
[10:01 AM]  Mr. Blue: 
That'd be a good YT video actually
It's a DIY cement block wall thing by some Bob Villa type but it's to keep the demons in Hell
[10:05 AM] 
I like this YT idea a lot, actually
"A lot of people will jump on the phone and call for an expensive exorcist, but today we're going to show you how to hide your supernatural problems with cheap materials. (hand wave over red bricks, bag of mortar, dish of Communion wafers)"
"This is part 1 of a three-part series, starting with the simple brick-and-forget for basements. Then we'll move on to the locked door concealment. And finally the advanced false wall decorated closet with functional shelves. Let's get started!"
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