Saturday, January 12, 2019

492 - The Legality Of Fully Automatic Big Game Hunting

[9:01 AM]  Mr. Brown: 
So I saw an article that said that the Vegas shooter used a bump stock
[9:01 AM] 
yup
(editors note - These POS add-ons were not only banned since that event, but banned by Republicans(?!), and had no Grandfather clause...turn them in or busted - Mr. Silver)
[9:01 AM]  Mr. Brown: 
apparently this thing makes weapons like an automatic
not sure exactly how
[9:01 AM] 
Uh...well...
You stick it on...
And you line up
Put your finger on the trigger and pull back on the rifle. 
Keep your trigger finger stiff when you fire
And the kick of the shot makes the bump stock slide enough to push the trigger into your finger again.
[9:03 AM]  Mr. Blue: 
yes
[9:03 AM] 
So as long as you can hold steady, you have a machine gun
[9:03 AM]  Mr. Blue: 
like bump-firing but it's a springy stock
[9:03 AM]  Mr. Brown: 
ok yeah. That guy should have never been allowed to buy that
[9:04 AM]  Mr. Blue: 
It's legal
[9:04 AM]  Mr. Brown: 
ever
[9:04 AM]  Mr. McGreen: 
But hes an American, Mr. Brown
[9:04 AM] 
Yes, perfectly legal. It's merely very similar in principle to a machine gun.
In fact it is just a manual action instead of a mechanical one so your finger doesn't get tired as you murder crowds with it at fully-automatic fire rates...
So it's is...um...not a machine gun.
[9:04 AM]  Mr. McGreen: 
Its his right as a Merican'
[9:05 AM]  Mr. Brown: 
no it bypasses the laws in place for somebody to get an automatic weapon.
[9:05 AM]  Mr. Blue: 
you can buy equipment to make semi-auto into auto
it's legal to buy, sell and own...just not install
[9:06 AM]  Mr. Brown: 
I'm completely against anybody other than police and military having an automatic weapon
[9:07 AM] 
But Mr. Brown...it's illegal to install that, as Mr. Blue said.  So no gun nut who would desire find and purchase such a kit would actually do it.
The type who would want such a display piece would be too responsible.
They could end up suspended from the NRA for a while
It wouldn't be worth it
[9:10 AM]  Mr. Blue: 
you can even make handguns into full auto
[9:10 AM]
I think it should be part of the Bar Exam to ask prospective law graduates to successfully define a spade.
(gun nut's lawyer) "And so, this manual attachment doesn't make a machine gun."
(judge) "Show a video of it working.  (watches)  Machine gun.  Illegal.  NEXT?"
[9:11 AM]  Mr. McGreen: 
Robocop had a fully automatic handgun
[9:11 AM]  Mr. Blue: 
exactly
[9:11 AM] 
I WANT Robocop to have one
[9:11 AM]  Mr. Brown: 
lol
[9:11 AM]  Mr. McGreen: 
lol
[9:11 AM] 
I don't want "Street thug #4 in alley scene" to have one.
[9:12 AM]  Mr. Brown: 
the people that legally get full autos go through lots of stuff to be allowed to have one
and they are supposed to only use them for certain things
[9:12 AM]  Mr. Blue: 
interesting story... so the Israeli government commissioned for the desert eagles to be made.. but they were very impractical because they were too big with too much recoil and not enough capacity.  the manufacturer of them (at one point a small PA company) sent a bunch of them to movie studios and wardrobe companies in Hollywood and they got them into a bunch of movies
but they were never popular or used by much of anyone.. yet pretty much every movie has a guy with a desert eagle in it because they knew how ot market and they looked badass
[9:12 AM]  Mr. Brown: 
lol
BLAM!!!
aaaaaaah! my hand! Aaaaah!
I can't shoot it again!
Doesn't hold it right
BLAM  AAAAA my NODE
My f-ing node!
[9:13 AM]  Mr. Blue: 
that reminded me because I read that they wanted Robocop to have a Desert Eagle but instead it was a spiced-up Beretta
[9:13 AM] 
I fired my brother's...once
Wow
It kind of evoked the memory of the one time I fired his muzzleloader.
WHOOM!   ...and I'm standing a half step back bracing on my back foot, the gun was pointing a different direction and the target had a big hole in it
[9:14 AM]  Mr. McGreen: 
i shot a .44 once and i felt it in my face
[9:15 AM]  Mr. Brown: 
I mean the Desert Eagle's ammo makes it have low quantity clips
so you better shoot it well
hit what your aiming at
[9:15 AM]  Mr. McGreen: 
Isn't that the idea for a gun?
ive never shot a rifle or shotgun
i have no reason to
i could never kill an animal i don't have beef with
[9:21 AM]  Mr. Brown: 
I shoot them to eat them, lots of times i don't even shoot them
decide to let them go
I would never hunt just to get the hide
I would eat it too
or just the horns
so these people that shoot Giraffs and Zebras are idiots
[9:22 AM]  Mr. McGreen: 
those giraffes were coming right for them
[9:25 AM] 
(reads)  You'd eat the hides and antlers, Mr. Brown?
[9:25 AM]  Mr. Brown: 
lol
i know that was writen poorly
I think you could eat the hide
prob the antler too if ground up
[9:26 AM] 
Traditional medicine includes antler, yes.
As for big game hunting...besides the issues of what room do you put a stuffed giraffe in...
[9:26 AM]  Mr. McGreen: 
the Giraffe Room of course
[9:27 AM] 
On an Adam Ruins It All there was a piece on that.  Turns out that the wildlife preserves have decided the only way to pay for their preservation with piles of money is to sell old sick Big Game to stupid rich American hunters
They tag the trouble makers and death's door trophy animals...and charge $xx,000 to drive some dope out to shoot it.
Then they can pay for care and patrols for the rest of the preserve.
[9:29 AM]  Mr. Brown: 
Practical big game hunting
[9:29 AM] 
Apparently it's been working very well
[9:29 AM]  Mr. Brown:  
I still don't believe in just killing for a trophy
thus why its not a big deal if i don't go hunting
[9:30 AM] 
No...but if they'll be dying or raiding garbage cans or killing kids anyway...might as well.  The staff were going to have to shoot them for free if they didn't market them.
[9:30 AM]  Mr. McGreen: 
well if they are gonna get put down anyway, its best that it benefits the other animals
yeah
[9:30 AM]  Mr. Brown: 
yeah that part would be ok
and you can't eat a sick animal
but shooting zebras is a little strange to me
prob cause they are a horse and we have them in culture as semi pets
[9:32 AM]  Mr. McGreen: 
i read the true story of Seabiscuit/horse racing and horses sound kinda stupid
Dogs are smarter
Jockies all have eating disorders too
literally they swallow tapeworms and shit
[9:34 AM]  Mr. Brown: 
alcoholic miniature men
[9:34 AM] 
Zebras are more a wild ass...but...ok
[9:34 AM]  Mr. Brown: 
True
[9:34 AM] 
Also, there's comparatively a bazillion zebra
[9:35 AM]  Mr. Brown: 
also I would think just killing an elephant for its tusks alone is a big waste
but i know thats normaly illegals doing that
[9:36 AM]  Mr. Blue: 
Immgrints ur comin' in, killing ur elephants fur thur tusks!”
[9:36 AM]  Mr. Brown: 
lol
[9:36 AM] 
Thur takin' ur TUSKS!
[9:37 AM]  Mr. Brown: 
There are a lot of meat sources that nobody uses anymore
that if done right we would have plenty and it would replenish
Like wild boars
[9:38 AM]  Mr. McGreen: 
filthy swine
[9:38 AM] 
There was an Onion "Our Dumb Century" article that was roughly - "Steamer Delivers Cargo of Inedible Animals to New York" 
The article went over the confusion with the types, but the go-ahead to slaughter and sell everything, and then people submitting complaints to butchers about the taste before the founder of the Bronx Zoo found out what happened
[9:40 AM]  Mr. Brown: 
haha
[9:40 AM] 
If wild boar would become a thing, maybe we could save Texas.  Apparently they're like a rat plague in some areas. But bigger and much more dangerous. 
Probably roughly as smart as each other too
[9:45 AM]  Mr. Blue: 
Should send all the hunting nuts to the areas with invasive species like boars.
Or raccoons in Europe
[9:41 AM]  Mr. Brown: 
Yep
No limit. Have a good time!

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