[10:41 AM] Mr. Blue:
Watched this
Not bad. Had a Tim Burton-y vibe. Probably because Elfman did the soundtrack
I guess it bombed because the studio's marketing dept didn't bother watching it and advertised it as a slasher flick
[10:42 AM] Mr. Silver:
Yeah, Nightbreed is nothing like a slasher film
Granted, the one guy wanted to kill off the nightbreedy breeds
X-Men if no one went public!
[10:48 AM] Mr. Blue:
David Cronenberg is an actor in it, and he's noticeably bad at acting
It coulda been better
[10:49 AM] Mr. Brown:
Yes it was good, but some of the acting was sucky
Good concept
They had plans for a sequel but it bombed, so did not happen
[10:50 AM] Mr. Silver:
It was from fairly popular books, I believe
[10:53 AM] Mr. Blue:
It reminded me of Little Monsters with Fred Savage and Howie Mandell
Honestly it's almost identical, just a rated R version
Neat idea though
Maybe they should've done more in terms of how the monsters interact with the real world. Like maybe they're the cause of cryptids and ghost sightings and other things
Also what's with all of the locals suddenly turning into genocidal maniacs? I get the allegory to like, colonialism, but it was far-fetched
[10:59 AM] Mr. Silver:
We watched "Dracula" (Bela's), "Abbot and Costello Meet Frankenstein", which now clearly wins for my favorite astonishing death scene in old monster movies, The Blob, Part of The Invisible Man, Part of The Mummy, and half of House on Haunted Hill.
[10:59 AM] Mr. Blue:
Were those all on TCM? I recorded a bunch of stuff on TCM
The Thing from Another World (the original The Thing), Earth vs the Flying Saucers (watched it, poor film but good Harryhausen FX), and some others.
Bela's Dracula is pretty darned good
I watched it fairly recently - in the past year
I have some other Draculas to watch...some of the Hammer ones
[11:02 AM] Mr. Silver:
I have the Thing from Another World in queue
Dracula was interesting. I mean, its definitely aged...but Mina and Renfield's mental transformations in it were creepy.
(Here...46:40, 1:03:00 - Mr. Silver)
[11:03 AM] Mr. Blue:
For being like 85 years old, it holds up
[11:03 AM] Mr. Silver:
Dracula himself is what you expect after all these years with him as a model, but its his victims that were interesting to watch. Mind control...vampiric lusts...
Harker trying to shoo off the big bat is what draws the eye, but Mina—entranced--answering Dracula's unheard instructions in the foreground and then moving on Harker is what gave me goosebumps.
[11:06 AM] Mr. Blue:
My favorite character is usually Van Helsing
[11:10 AM] Mr. Silver:
He was ok in it.
The Blob mainly suffered from it's budget
[11:25 AM] Mr. Blue:
I only saw the 80s one
[11:26 AM] Mr. Silver:
Yes...that one ALSO suffered from it's budget...meaning its budget was high enough to make something truly repulsive
Heh
[11:27 AM] Mr. Blue:
Heh
[11:27 AM] Mr. Silver:
Anyway, going back to my Award for "Astonishing Death Scene" , it was something I remembered was coming in time to truly drink it in when it happened.
[11:27 AM] Mr. Blue:
What was it?
[11:28 AM] Mr. Silver:
Frankenstein's monster picks up the evil psychopath-incognito surgeon and HURLS her through the castle window. Didn't use a crappy doll either...live stunt person.
"Damn but that was AWESOME for a movie like this!"
[11:30 AM] Mr. Blue:
In the Abbott and Costello one?
[11:31 AM] Mr. Silver:
Yeah!
Right through the glass and over the ledge
(Here...1:16:00 – Mr. Silver)
So The Blob was most interesting to me because of some of the effects. Strangely mixed results.
Anywhere from jelly puppets, to cardboard cutouts and goo, to animation and drawings.
[12:56 PM] Mr. Brown:
I've seen, I think, an 80's Blob movie
[12:57 PM] Mr. Blue:
It's cool because you still see the dead people floating around in the blob, dissolving
[12:58 PM] Mr. Brown:
Yeah, I saw the 80's one
I saw the 80's Invasion of the Body Snatchers too, I think
[1:01 PM] Mr. Silver:
70s Body Snatchers is quite the movie.
Never saw all of the...50s?...one.
[1:02 PM] Mr. Blue:
I've seen 50s and a 90s one
Not 70s
[1:03 PM] Mr. Silver:
78...
A fine example of humanity losing, and losing hard.
[1:06 PM] Mr. Blue:
With Donald Sutherland?
[1:06 PM] Mr. Silver:
Yeah
Thing is, in retrospect, it really wasn't that big of a deal.
There's the occasional sci-fi movie out there where Oh Nos! The world is DOOMED. But then I consider it from an anthropological/evolutionary perspective and think "(shrug)".
Invasion of the Body Snatchers was only actually bad if you happened to still be meat.
If anything, Earth was improved.
[1:16 PM] Mr. Blue:
Of course, takeover progress would be exponential
But everyone was just droning along, emotionless
[1:23 PM] Mr. Silver:
Well, the emotional elements were certainly reduced to a low logical sort of state, but everyone retained their intelligence, remembered who they were, and maybe even valued their old relationships. Nimoy was an interesting cast for the part he had because, basically, humans were becoming Vulcans
[1:24 PM] Mr. Blue:
I didn't know he was in it
[1:25 PM] Mr. Silver:
There was no sign at all that current culture was being abandoned...mentally there would be no reason to discard the current knowledge and working culture for some alien thing
Infrastructure was all there.
Everyone was already trained in all the industries and jobs
They'd just...not fight or make out anymore. And I'm not even sure of the latter.
[1:30 PM] Mr. Blue:
I assumed everyone was still going about their day jobs because there were still non-converted stragglers
[1:30 PM] Mr. Silver:
Didn't appear to be. They just kept going to work
[1:32 PM] Mr. Brown:
Dude any movie is good if it has the Goldblum
And Nimoy on top is the icing
And Donald Sutherland
This list is all good actors
[1:33 PM] Mr. Silver:
It doesn't make any sense to abandon any of it, so apparently they didn't.
[1:33 PM] Mr. Blue:
Certainly entertainment would be abandoned. You can't make movies if everyone is emotionless, everyone just reading their lines verbatim
[1:33 PM] Mr. Silver:
Maybe, maybe not.
[1:34 PM] Mr. Brown:
They might have had their own form of entertainment on their planet
[1:34 PM] Mr. Silver:
Possible. And they'd substitute such a culture in.
The point is...the next alien invasion force to come to Earth would find a planet of people-shaped ambulatory plants speaking whatever language was most expedient
[1:36 PM] Mr. Blue:
Maybe they were trying to help us
Maybe they were like the monolith in 2001.. just giving us a little nudge
[1:37 PM] Mr. Brown:
Wouldn't they thrive like plants?
[1:38 PM] Mr. Silver:
Yes
The fertilizer industry would be big
[1:38 PM] Mr. Brown:
Nature takes over again.
[1:38 PM] Mr. Silver:
Doubt it. They are an intelligent advanced race.
They wouldn't have forest fires...they'd have CROWD FIRES!
[1:38 PM] Mr. Blue:
I assume they'd try to start pushing everything towards space exploration to infect more worlds.
[1:39 PM] Mr. Silver:
They traveled as seeds. They'd just fruit and drift off like they did from the last place.
Which brings up a different kind of sci-fi, because maybe, possibly, they were just terraformers for some more superior race
I don't recall the name for the proposal, but it involves sending self-replicating drones out and (relatively) quickly reaching all of a galaxy.
All these transformed planets would be there waiting when "we" show up to take over
Another example of The END of the WORLD!!! - various versions of "I Am Legend"
Well...
What really happens is humans got a disease and the survivors turned into different humans, who would rebuild society and continue on. The only guy who couldn't handle it was the last of the extinct version.
("anthropologist shrug")
"Oh nos! There was a horrible catastrophe that...
Well...
People survived -- just like The Black Death. And eventually it'll just be normal and people will get back to being people.
OK, so they don't do well in sunlight. Remarkably enough, lots of people now don't do very well in the sunlight."
"But Mr. Silver! They are vampires!"
"Temporarily? Actually, if there's no human blood around, they don't seem to need to eat at all...a positive boon for mankind. Of course if they REALLY want blood they'd have to innovate some sort of industry that can raise and keep some sort of live “stock” animal to get blood from. (nod, wink)"
"... ...well... ..."
"Earth is saved! Yay horrible disease!"
I remember watching Charlton Heston in Omega Man and thinking: "can't we just kill this dip and rebuild society?"
Which is the point of the story anyway.
[1:57 PM] Mr. Brown:
Same with zombies
[1:57 PM] Mr. Silver:
Zombies are rotting morons though
[1:57 PM] Mr. Brown:
Well depends on the kind of zombie
I saw that one film – can't think of the name currently – but the hero woke up from the mindlessness
It was called Warm Bodies
[2:00 PM] Mr. Silver:
Been a couple of that style of zombie recently. In the UK they had a TV series based on the idea of caring for your recovering zombie family members.
Had to be registered...regular checkups...monitoring.
Hehe
"Last Man on Earth", Vincent Price
(me, watching near the end) "Anyone out there ever...you know...consider scrapping this whole spy thing in favor of writing this guy a note?"
"Dear Doctor, most of us are fine. Could you stop murdering us please?"
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