Saturday, April 18, 2020

600 - A Particular Set Of Retirement Skills, Un-Credible Religious Stories, and Tarpsquatch

[2:36 PM] 
So
Liam Neeson
(Mrs. Silver) "He should have never said anything."
"I already told you my theory."
"What?"
"Someone was trying to blackmail him or said they were going to release it so he was beating them at their own game."
"Oh"
"My guess anyway.  Clever as he could be about it...get it out in his version asap."
[2:43 PM]  Mr. Blue: 
Just a unique way of retiring
Maybe insurance reasons
If he commits career suicide instead of announcing retirement he gets some kind of insurance money or studio bonuses
I mean, I see what he was going for
[2:45 PM] 
Interesting
I think he's actually tried the "never again" retirement before.
Maybe he sees this as the guarantee studios will stop sending him scripts
[2:47 PM]  Mr. Blue: 
I think if he left out the part about marauding through a black neighborhood trying to provoke someone to attack him so he could kill them, he'd have been fine.
"Something bad happened to a friend... And these horrible, prejudiced thoughts entered my head.  I felt ashamed.  I fixed myself, and now I'm a better person."
Because that's relatable for anyone
[2:49 PM] 
Nah...they'd doubt he was Irish if he did it normally.
;)
[2:50 PM]  Mr. Blue: 
heh
[2:51 PM] 
(Bar friends sneer as he walks in)
"A real man woulda burned a buildin' down, boyo.”
A crowbar says he."
"Barkeep!  Get this little missy a water.  Not too cauld...she probly co'on’t taik it."
[3:57 PM]  Mr. Brown: 
Why din ye hit'em with a tater?
[4:12 PM] 
heh
[3:19 PM]  Mr. Yellow: 
I am not sure what that was about
NM, I found the article
hmm. I really have no issue with his statement as a whole
He wanted someone to have a go at him so he could get revenge but realized how stupid that was
so people are on his sh#t about being honest about feelings he had
He was angry like we were when we decided as a country to declare war in Afghanistan and Iraq.
We wanted revenge even if innocent people got harmed
[3:32 PM] 
Oh, I would have been violently steamed too
I had my dad lecture me when I was heading out into the neighborhood with a cavalry saber to get "revenge" once
[3:38 PM]  Mr. Yellow: 
It never pays to tell too much of the truth. Sometimes we give away too much information.
Yes I wanted revenge once so bad. It was when my friend was raped.
Or like when a supervisor offered for people to go home early and I asked to go to spend time with some friends at X. I was rejected because I was going to a bar not to a family gathering. It was freeking 10pm
[3:41 PM] 
"Why yes, I'll leave early...I'd like to hit the church on the way home."
[3:47 PM]  Mr. Yellow: 
yep



[9:34 AM]  Mr. Brown: 
[9:35 AM]  Mr. Blue: 
but Jesus wasn't born in Anatolia
[9:37 AM] 
They are both depicted as having long beards”.
Amazing, huh?
Almost like shaving your beard was banned in Leviticus
[9:37 AM]  Mr. Brown: 
With upward gaze too
[9:38 AM] 
I know!
"And...get this...both are male"
[9:39 AM]  Mr. Brown: 
They both have amazing abs
The article talks more about how lame it is
lol
Like the people did no real research
[9:45 AM] 
Hate to say it, but...there's really not a whole lot that is unique about the Jesus cycle if you look at ancient and indigenous mystic stories
(See: "How to start a fight with a Baptist")
[9:49 AM]  Mr. Blue: 
I mean wasn't Jesus just one of many supposed prophets even in his time and place?
Lotta guys running around claiming crazy stuff
[9:52 AM] 
I meant more general than that
Prophesy of the coming hero.  Divine conception.  Miraculous birth.  Uncanny knowledge.  Trials.  Healings.  Raising the dead.  Persecution, death, resurrection.  Trips to the underworld. 
Will return any day now.
...the long tradition of merging characters' acts or cutting and pasting from other stories...
[9:58 AM]  Mr. Blue: 
yes
[10:01 AM] 
Let us grant the man was real - I'd like to meet him - shamanically I already have. 
But a whole lot of stuff written about him just wasn't anything he did. 
People have been separating out forgeries and fiction and ID-ing embellishments for centuries.
Its why there is an Apocrypha.  And even that isn't complete at all.
"Jesus created bats when he was a kid!  He liked birds and so he took up clay and-"  Slam...right in the BS pile. 
And that edit decision came from people who thought the earth was only thousands of years old.
[10:09 AM]  Mr. Blue: 
That's from the discredited infancy gospel right?
[10:10 AM] 
Not sure...
[10:10 AM]  Mr. Blue: 
I think if it were me, and I was either God or the Son of, and I was intending to convince everyone of my divinity, I'd change the color of the sky.
Or, like, literally flip colors on the spectrum... like blue goes to where yellow is and yellow to blue
[10:11 AM] 
That's the sign?
[10:11 AM]  Mr. Blue: 
Yes
The whole world would see it obviously
[10:12 AM] 
But...
[10:13 AM]  Mr. Blue: 
I mean permanently
[10:13 AM] 
Woo!
[10:13 AM]  Mr. Brown: 
Thou must remember blue did not exist for a long time
hehe
[10:14 AM] 
I remember someone in the 70s telling me the Deluge was such a surprise because it had never rained before.
Stuck with me
(obviously)
"You don't really believe that, do you?"
"It's the first time rain ever happened."
Can you imagine the known world panic if water started coming out of the sky and no one had ever seen it before?  You wouldn't even have to have destroyed the world. 
"Listen you evil pinheads...I can DO THIS!  Shape up!"
Between that and the entire surface of the planet being...well...devoid of life without it.
I kinda doubt that was the first time it rained.
"Before that, everything got it's moisture from fog."
(Genesis 2:6)
[10:16 AM]  Mr. Blue: 
Must not have been any lakes or rivers then. Or clouds.
[10:20 AM]  Mr. Brown: 
Maybe the definition did not exist
It was just something that happened
MOISTURE
[10:47 AM] 
"And THE LORD returned to The Garden, and did not see the man and the woman.  Why do you hide from ME? He said, and the man and woman replied we are like 10 feet away over here in this mist stuff."
[10:47 AM]  Mr. Blue: 
heh
[10:48 AM] 
"And the man asked you think You could move this somewhere else, we keep bumping into stuff."
[10:49 AM]  Mr. Brown: 
"or give us special eye powers to see through it. Yes we need special powers"
[10:53 AM] 
"And Eve smacked her shin into a tree as she ran to greet THE LORD, and the bark roughed it up badly, and Adam who was tasked with giving all things names, could only come up with She barked her shin."
"So it's his fault we still say it"
And THE LORD did roll his eyes.”



[1:42 PM] 
[1:44 PM]  Mr. Brown: 
Looks like a bear
[1:44 PM] 
Looks like a fake
I'll submit it to you this way:
1. If I spotted a Bigfoot and could film it, I'd burn battery til it left.
"This guy is boring.  Let's get some coffee or something."
2. Known to be the most elusive giant hominid cryptid, this Bigfoot just stands in the open turning around in place
[1:49 PM]  Mr. Blue: 
heh
[1:49 PM] 
3. None of the others had a cell with a camera.  Back to #1. "You watch it here...I'm going to keep filming and walk up there.  If it runs, try to follow it and I'll see what I can find." 
[1:50 PM]  Mr. Brown: 
Thats what i would have done
[1:50 PM]  Mr. Blue: 
Looks like something blowing in the wind
Like a tarp got snagged on a tree or something
[1:51 PM] 
Tarpsquatch
"And then the wind picked up and Bigfoot started to fly!"
[1:52 PM]  Mr. Brown: 
I could hear it rustling in the night, with a light plastic smell on the air
[1:52 PM] 
"It has to be big!  Look how far away it is!"
Silver Jr. and I walk farther and steeper than that in our own neighborhood.  Go up there!
[1:54 PM]  Mr. Brown: 
Running up there
getting closer and closer
Holy shit
holy shit
holy shit
Ah damn, it was a tarp
[1:55 PM]  Mr. Blue: 
It looks like something blowing around... The base seems to stay stationary but the top is swaying back and forth
[1:57 PM] 
(5 minutes after they left, a little old lady climbs up to retrieve the cover for her patio table)
[1:58 PM]  Mr. Brown: 
Damn it tarp that's not funny, you gotta stop tricking these people”

Sunday, April 5, 2020

599 - "Witch-Proof DVDs", and The Scary Truth About 'The Mandela Effect' Is The Victims Are Correct

[10:11 AM] 
Today's walking to work humming Mary Poppins lyrics thought:
"Girls name mentioned: “Millicent”.  Millicent?  Is there a girl's name that is literally 'One-thousand-one-hundred'?"
(I haven't looked it up yet)
(looks it up)
Answer
no
However if I ever meet one... ;)
So...speaking of "Mary Poppins". 
I'd hoped to watch the original again before going to see the new one.  Silver Jr. had never seen anything but parts, and then very young.
Mrs. Silver...
Did not want to see either one.
Based on “Pee Wee's Big Adventure” and “Ernest: Scared Stupid”, you can start making guesses here.
The planned movie day was a weekend matinee.  Wednesday I went to the video place.
Found the “Mary Poppins” box with no disks. 
"Anything I can help with?" 
"Only if someone brought MP back."
[10:31 AM]  Mr. Brown: 
Mary's Poppin'
[10:31 AM] 
"I'll check...was due Monday." 
"I see..."
return return return...no MP
We went to see the new one. 
Checked when we got back...
No MP
Check back
Check back
Check back
FINALLY – day later – it was there. 
I take it home
We have dinner
Start "Mary Poppins Night"
Skip the trailers for all the new stuff that Disney is releasing to video in 2005...
Get to the menu
The menu goes wonky
But the movie starts
And then locks up solid in the first 2 seconds
The teeth-gritting glare I turned on Mrs. Silver as I fought with the remote must have been pretty vicious because she threw an angry fit that she “didn't do it”!
"Pee Wee...Ernest...who knows how many of the others we returned before I noticed?"
I restarted, got through it all and then it played...no issues. 
I'm sure she killed “Bedknobs and Broomsticks” too, in retrospect.
Anyway...that's the latest Mrs. Silver kills undesired videos update.
[10:38 AM]  Mr. Brown: 
When she don't like it
It don't work
[10:38 AM] 
Yup
[10:39 AM]  Mr. Brown: 
I need a witch-proof DVD player
[10:40 AM] 
After it was done and we had a small fight over some of her jabs at Silver Jr. finding stuff "musical-embarrassing" in it, I tried to watch the special features. 
Had to slog through the menu 2x to get it to even open and then they didn't run.
I gave up.
Perhaps if I wrap her in aluminum foil
[10:44 AM]  Mr. Brown: 
I had a DVD player that would act up
[10:50 AM] 
Remember this is the woman who witnessed my examination of the pristine "must be scratched" Ernest DVD and who telekinetically added scratches to it while it was sealed in the case - in my possession - on the drive to the video place.
(Video store girl) "Oh, it's scratched, see?"
It's like "Bewitched" except she never conjures anything good. 
Well...that's not true...but the balance is WAY off.



[9:50 AM]  Mr. Blue: 
Are the Berenstain bears Jewish?
[9:51 AM]  Mr. Brown: 
There is a fun thing with that too - the way that Berenstein was spelled.
lol
[9:52 AM]  Mr. Blue: 
Isn't that a Mandela Effect thing?
[9:52 AM]  Mr. Brown: 
yep
[9:52 AM]  Mr. Blue: 
People swear it was stein but it's always been stain
Probably because they were too young to read it so had someone read it to them and they pronounced it stine.
[9:54 AM]  Mr. Brown: 
[9:54 AM]  Mr. Blue: 
Ah
[9:54 AM]  Mr. Brown: 
Lots of books that were not Jewish
lol
They have a Sunday School book
[10:32 AM] 
Mandela effect or multiverse tangents? The end result the same: the victims sound crazy.
[10:33 AM]  Mr. Blue: 
I think people just confused Mandela with Gandhi or MLK
[10:34 AM] 
Always associated it with these, myself - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandala
I mean I know the "didn't he die" thing
But...you know...Mandalas
[10:35 AM]  Mr. Brown: 
The Berenstain Bears Make a Mandala
[10:35 AM]
Considering Gandi died in the 40s and MLK in the 60s...no. No one is confused about that.
Biko was the 70s and no one was confused by that either.
I am one of those who remember Mandela dying and being surprised and confused when he was still alive.
I'm obviously a universe-shift guy
I have a variety of (paranoid) suspicions. Like it appears to be happening more often.
Someone succeeded making a time machine or something and is damaging reality.
[10:41 AM]  Mr. Brown: 
Or its just the natural collision of dimensions.
[10:41 AM] 
Perhaps I was correct in my method back in high school and I – or one of me – diverged and have been breaking shit ever since.
[10:41 AM]  Mr. Brown: 
As more people are born more dimensions are created to include their possibilities,
thus causing more and more of them to contact and interact.
We're running out of dimensional space
[10:42 AM] 
I mean...I have considered and written down techniques to do this crap on purpose.  Versions of me are trying them.
Sorry guys
[10:43 AM]  Mr. Brown: 
I'm sure there is more than just you who has figured it out and been messing stuff up
lol
[10:43 AM] 
You know me. I'd explain and teach it to people.
[10:43 AM]  Mr. Brown: 
(shifty eyes) So how did you do this again? (holding up recorder)
[10:45 AM] 
"We call it the 'Interview With The Vampire Effect'.  See, Mr. Silver figures all this stuff out.  And then spends 400 pages explaining to an interested person how horrible and dangerous and unpleasant it is.  And then on the last page explains how to do it anyway."
(Anne Rice books tick me off)
[10:46 AM]  Mr. Brown: 
This is a bad idea guys, but this is how I did it
lol
I still think a lot of it is just dimensions colliding
Its one thing in the one, another in the other. They collide and switch
[10:49 AM] 
Yes
Leaving anyone too close to the interaction who remembered the Sinbad genie movie in such detail that they remember the family video store owning 3 copies -- and playing it on the store TVs so many times they were sick of it -- stuck in a reality where it never existed when they slipped over.
[10:50 AM]  Mr. Brown: 
Like in movie dimension of “Last Action Hero” - The Terminator was played by Stallone
[10:51 AM] 
Its valid somewhere...
Some poor sap out there is confused that the Arnold version isn't a remake
[10:53 AM]  Mr. Brown: 
Odd deja vu when you dip into another dimension
[10:54 AM] 
I used to think about and logic out trying to find this stuff when I was in my teens and early 20s with only suspicions of success. 
Now they just happen. 
Like the en passant rule in chess changing.
[10:55 AM]  Mr. Blue: 
I think it's easily explained by our brains being not quite the "computers" they're made out to be
they're flawed
[10:55 AM]
Ok, how about the (Project X) record here:
I selected my next job in sequence.  Went through everything...recorded, reviewed, notated, etc.
Saved.
And then I moved on.
And a few entries later I find a “new” one where I know all the names and information already.
Oh.  Someone just submitted it twice by mistake.”
So I went back and the original and my entire report in two different programs were no longer there. 
The ones I did before and the ones I did after were.
I didn't cherry pick it from lower down the list...do the work, then fail to Save in 2 different programs because it would still be in the original list...there...because they don't get deleted.
I had no trouble remembering where in the list it used to be or the contents in detail or my conclusions.
So I had to do that one all over again because it had literally vanished from my past and moved forward in time.
@Blue as a conventional scientist I agree, brains are flawed
As an unconventional scientist, that example is quite a bit of a stretch since I'd have to remember it before I encountered it.
Moving to Chess
It was rather a shock, playing chess from the age of 5 or 6 and knowing a rule for decades, just to have my kid hand me "the rules" after I called him on an illegal play.  
45 years of playing chess and the only thing that was the same about en passant was the name of the rule. 
I'd never seen what I read described or used. 
Did everyone I've ever played with play wrong for 40 years? 
Privately...in clubs...at events?
Everyone?
That's a lot of flawed brains.
[11:01 AM]  Mr. Brown: 
It says en passant has been there since the 15th century
[11:01 AM] 
(points up)
Gave me the creeps
[11:02 AM]  Mr. Brown: 
What part changed?
The whole rule, or how it is used.
[11:03 AM] 
Yes
[11:04 AM]  Mr. Brown: 
Double step past enemy pawn means they can be taken on that turn by the enemy pawn as if they moved one.
[11:06 AM] 
In my universe it was "If a pawn crosses to the other side of the board and abuts against the opponent's pawns in their original position under threat, the opponent can take the pawn without moving his own.
Basically you walk up to the shield wall and die.  There apparently is no such rule.
[11:07 AM]  Mr. Brown: 
Men with polearms
lol
Stab
[11:08 AM] 
You'd only do such a thing to force the line to break.  So...it means you can't force your opponent's line to break.
His pawn kills your pawn and stays in place
Checkers, for comparison and depending on rules, if you purposely move into a space where they can capture you, they have to capture your piece.

Saturday, April 4, 2020

598 - Pragmatic Astrology and Infuriating Numerology

[8:59 AM]  Mr. Brown: 
Year of the Pig
yay
lol
[8:59 AM] 
Which pig?
(looks)
Earth
I thought I was a cock for years (ba DUM chisssshh)
I'm a green monkey, actually.  Silver jr. is a gold monkey
(wood, metal)
Chinese elements are not earth air fire and water... wood, earth, water, fire and metal
[9:51 AM]  Mr. Brown: 
I'm not sure which pig i am
Where were you looking?
[9:51 AM] 
What year and month were you born?
[9:52 AM]  Mr. Brown: 
July 1983
[9:57 AM] 
Water Pig
[9:57 AM]  Mr. Brown: 
Cool
So not my year
lol
just got the pig part
It is surprising how the write-ups for somebody that is Pig matches them
[10:02 AM]  Mr. Blue: 
There's no way that every person born in a 365 day span has the same personality traits
[10:03 AM]  Mr. Brown: 
The Pig fortune in 2019 suggests them to reduce the times going to crowded and bustling places like bars and KTV rooms, as they are very likely to get involved in physical conflicts there after getting drunk.
lol
[10:04 AM]  Mr. Blue: 
They just make the traits positive and vague so that everyone agrees that they share them
"strong, sophisticated, intelligent"
Is anyone going to be like "that's not me.. I'm a weak little dipshit"
[10:38 AM] 
Horoscopes are a very weird thing.
Despite the newspaper/Chinese menu "everyone is this" thing, a "real" one is extraordinarily difficult and astrophysics and mathematics owes an awful lot to astrologers
Much as chemistry owes a lot to the interminable BS of alchemy
Its not just month and day
It's year, time of birth and location
Arrayed against the motions of several celestial bodies, their location, conjunctions, and where they are moving.
In short, it's bonkers hard to calculate a horoscope and everyone's is different.
They now have computer programs are made to track and chart all this stuff, and even after it's all done the astrologist making the chart still has to figure out the results.
[10:44 AM]  Mr. Brown: 
Yeah finding all that would take a long time
[10:45 AM]  Mr. Blue: 
But why would celestial bodies affect a human being depending on the moment they popped out of the womb?
Wouldn't they be constantly affecting you before and after birth?
[10:45 AM]  Mr. Brown: 
The moon does
[10:45 AM] 
@Blue - Yeah, and people get horoscopes done for stuff like that
[10:46 AM]  Mr. Blue: 
So we'd all have the same horoscope then
[10:47 AM]
Only if born at the same location at the same date and same time...so...no.
Medicine went through a long period of horoscope based theory.  Not sure much good came out of the horoscopes but it did lead to detailed observations.
These are my conclusions about Astrology from my POV
1. Don't believe horoscopes, but do believe in them as a practitioner technique like any other "folk" psychology - however faith in them can be rather harmful.
Example - putting off needed medical attention because you are a Virgo and blah blah blah
2. There is a difficult set of correlations to follow based on things like when and where you were born...influence of seasonal weather...influence of seasonal foods...influence of seasonal sounds and social activity...the psychology of significant dates.  Add in tides.  I'm not gonna try to figure it out, but I'll bet some raw conclusions of thousands of years of Astrology matched from observation of the effects of nature and culture. 
3. The disciplines required to do a casting contributed enormously to modern science, so should be celebrated for such.
(The end)
And example relating to #2 - What did it do to my sister to have her birthday 3 days after Christmas?  The BIG SHOW of the year of a kid...and then "oh, it's your birthday too"
[10:58 AM]  Mr. Brown: 
Culturally its messed up on the Christmas and birthday deal
You end up with less presents
lol
[10:59 AM] 
Or later, at the right age, your consciousness awakens when everyone is in the house most of the day because it Winter. Or it happens when everyone is out in the sun because it's Summer.  What does that do to your formative psychology? Is a December baby in Australia like a June baby here?
[10:59 AM]  Mr. Blue: 
I think then there'd be so many more important factors than where Saturn was. Its meaningless
[11:00 AM] 
Yes. Saturn is meaningless
As is Jupiter, Mercury, Venus and Mars
Sun and Moon?  They seem to do things
What is the psychological effect of growing up in a culture that puts importance on the cycles of the seasons and where the sun rises and sets?  Sure has a lot of influence still.  What about constellations associated?
The stars themselves do nothing - the impressions and the legends can.
[11:05 AM]  Mr. Blue: 
You're suggesting a more pragmatic astrology
[11:05 AM] 
I could agree with that, Mr. Blue
Try this - You throw the horoscope on your kid and it says that they are going to be some sort of athlete.
And you believe it...and expect it...and encourage it...and get the kid involved...
Are you not more likely to produce an athlete?
[11:07 AM]  Mr. Blue: 
Your horoscope wouldn't change though,since planets, tides, whatever don't matter
Oh you were born 3 days after Christmas in the US?  You're going to be like this.” It won't change
[11:07 AM] 
Your start point doesn't change -
The people who do this for a living take the start point and then update it to current.
I think all that work is nonsense
It's the psychology and environment that I believe in more
You can test that, observe it
[11:09 AM]  Mr. Blue: 
This sounds more like basic psychology
[11:10 AM] 
It's a mix
[11:10 AM]  Mr. Blue: 
You were born X, your mother treated you like X, your dad treated you like X, you had X traumatic experience, your siblings did X, here's what you're like now
[11:10 AM] 
Add some physiology and sure
I've known enough people who buy into their horoscope so much that they make it a part of their personality.
"What can you DO when you have a chart like this Mr. Silver?"
"Start by ignoring the chart."
"But it's my CHART."
"If you didn't know what was in it, it would have no influence on you in any way.  But because it says X...and you believe X...you choose to be X."
Heh
I should go into business
"What horoscope do you want for your kid?  OK, I'll write that up.  Oh, sure it's real.  Tell him every day."
It's lunch time...after I'll bitch about the one that REALLY annoys me.

(Back)

The one - ironic choice of words – that really annoys me is Numerology
"Oh, well you're 50...so you're going into a 5 year, so that means-"
"Nothing"
"Well now wait...  So a 5 year, and it's 2019.  So that's a 1 if you just do the 19, but a 2 if you do the whole year.  So altogether that's a 7, so that means-"
"NOTHING!"
"Now wait.  Your name is Silver.  So if you do the letters in your name, you add up to-" 
"Which alphabet?  Which language?  Which of the ancient, modern, or new guru Numerology systems are you referring to?"
"But..."
"As for the year...which calendar?  Is my age based on my Western birthday or the Chinese conception date?"
"But..."
"IT IS UTTER BS!!!"
Bloody Numerology
Based on nonsense and extrapolated through the ages into more nonsense
"The Number of the Beast is 666!"
"Well according to your system, that would be 9.  Also Biblical scholars can't actually figure out if the right translation is 666 or 616. Also each of the unholy trinity is a 6, so it's more like 6 and 6 and 6"
"Well Jesus is an 8"
"God's son couldn't manage to score #1?"
[1:34 PM]  Mr. Brown: 
Maybe it's... 999?”
[1:38 PM]  Mr. Blue: 
Some numerologist or astrologist would have fun with my obsession with 4s and numbers divisible by 4.
And numbers divisible by 4 in a number that is itself divisible by 4 itself
"Oh... you're nuts"
[2:39 PM] 
Always found your 4-fixation interesting, Mr. Blue. 
You never actually get results, correct?  Just "this is divisible by 4"?
And it always is?
[2:44 PM]  Mr. Brown: 
Is 4 the meaning of life?
4 is God!
[3:45 PM]  Mr. Blue: 
Yeah I don't know what the result is, I just know if its divisible by 4
It started in my early teens
Probably a coping thing for teen stress
[3:58 PM]  
 
[3:59 PM]  Mr. Blue: 
Heh
[4:02 PM] 
Two years from now when I'm looking through stuff, I'm just gonna laugh and laugh at that one.
Sorry...four years